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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY |
| Date | 2026-01-12 13:40 +0000 |
| Organization | the-candyden-of-code |
| Message-ID | <slrn10m9u3n.1pdjr.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | <lR2cncJiQOVrj_70nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <06F8R.627473$3Sk8.596142@fx46.iad> |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote at 03:50 this Sunday (GMT): > On 2026-01-11, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> Only caught part of the interview with some big-biz >> CEO. Said he stopped hiring programmers a couple of >> years ago, as soon as CHAT could write code. >> >> The interview may come around again tomorrow >> sometime ... if I see it I'll fill in details. >> >> In essence, CHAT and friends now empower the >> pointy-haired bosses to just describe what >> they want an app to do and the AI makes it so. >> No human programmers needed - they're annoying >> and stinky and expensive anyway, right ? > > Back in my first job in the early '70s I came up with > the image of the ideal programmer: someone who could > read the manager's mind, wave his hands over a deck > of blank cards, and have a set of holes appear in it > that was a binary image that would do exactly what > he wanted (heavy use of the DWIM instruction). > >> Now the real-world QUALITY of AI-generated code >> is NOT a for-sure thing. Humans can intuit where >> vulnerabilities may be, what Vlad's boyz might >> get up to. The AI probably won't ... can't quite >> think like a creative malicious human. > > I once heard programmers described as a particularly > pessimistic lot; while everyone else was looking for > the beauty in things, programmers insisted on looking > for ways things could go wrong. But it's kept me in > work for over 50 years... You know what they say, hope for the best, prepare for the worst... >> Dealing with the idiotic human ERRORS in data >> entry and such too ... shit, half of my old DB >> code was dedicated to that exact thing. AMAZING >> what clueless humans can do. YOU know what it's >> suppose to be, THEY don't, not at all. > > At one PPOE we had a manager that I actually admired. > If a user came along with an unreasonable request, he > used a word that wasn't in most manager's vocabulary: > "No." One thing he had us do was tighten up input > editing to where the data would squeak - which resulted > in our rejecting a hell of a lot of data. The users > were outraged. He told them to get stuffed. That's pretty cool. >> "-12152012" as a date ... yep ... SEEN it. >> Whole paragraphs pasted into 30 byte fields, >> SEEN it. There's MORE ... MORE ...... >> >> Trust the pointy-haired bosses to specify >> code ? Are you MAD ???????? > > My favourite was when a boss insisted that > Boolean data fields must be 3 bytes long; > you need that much to hold "YES" or "NO". What if the user is using a different language? :( -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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"Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:03 -0500
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 23:24 -0500
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 05:54 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:23 -0500
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 22:08 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 23:08 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 20:49 -0500
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 03:11 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 04:43 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:44 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:43 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-12 08:41 -0500
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 14:48 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 19:43 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:41 +0000
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Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 19:03 +0000
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Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-16 02:05 +0000
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Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-16 08:14 -0800
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-15 19:20 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-14 11:33 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 19:02 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 17:36 -0500
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:41 +0000
Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
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Re: "Bloomberg Financial" Interview - "Programmers" GOING AWAY candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2026-01-12 13:40 +0000
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