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Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi)

From candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers, comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi)
Date 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
Organization the-candyden-of-code
Message-ID <slrn10kakjl.14g1t.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> (permalink)
References (18 earlier) <wwv1plf6apd.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <10ghqrq$g7pg$1@dont-email.me> <wwvy0nma8fp.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <693d5437$0$2499$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <10hl622$jeli$11@dont-email.me>

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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 02:05 this Sunday (GMT):
> On 13 Dec 2025 11:55:35 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> Everything else is just a lot of lies. They pretend it's not strongly
>> typed, but in the real world you will only encounter a lot of issue if
>> you believe that.
>
> Think about why both JavaScript and PHP need a “===” operator, while 
> Python does not.
>
> It’s because Python is strongly typed.

I thought it was because JS was too liberal with type-casting to make
things true, and the JS devs didn't want to break compatibility.

>> ... there are a lot of libraries helping developers.
>
> Other languages have done that before. Why do you think Python has been 
> able to leapfrog every prior language in this regard? Perl had a lot of 
> libraries to its name (still does), and yet that no longer seems to be a 
> good enough reason to continue using Perl, simply because Python now does 
> it better.
>
> It’s because Python has such a strong core language on which to build 
> extensions. The libraries tend to make heavy use of this.


It is quite nice, yeah.
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        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:45 -0500
      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:55 +0000
        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:39 +0000
        Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
  Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 02:05 +0000
    Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
      Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 20:58 +0000
        Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:48 +0000
      Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:12 +0000
        Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 05:25 -0500
          Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:22 +0000
        Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 22:28 +0000
        Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:25 +0000
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