Re: Linux PC Acting Up? How To Check For Bad Blocks On A Hard Drive - Before It's Too Late

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Subject	Re: Linux PC Acting Up? How To Check For Bad Blocks On A Hard Drive - Before It's Too Late
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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote at 22:04 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On 2025-08-05, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote at 01:39 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> On 2025-08-02 01:55, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 14:31:54 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I lost 540 MB from a failed Fujitsu drive in 1998 and found out the
>>>>> backup was invalid the hard way.
>>>> 
>>>> My backups are done with rsync, or script wrappers around rsync. They are
>>>> effectively mirror filesystems, not in any special “backup” format. These
>>>> are the easiest to verify, and restoration can be done with the same file-
>>>> manipulation commands I use every day.
>>>> 
>>>> In particular, that means that, in a moment of crisis (which is what
>>>> happens when you find you’ve lost data), I am doing the restoration using
>>>> familiar commands with which I am (hopefully) less likely to make
>>>> mistakes.
>>>
>>> Once an rsync backup deleted the original.
>>>
>>> I was using the --delete parameter, which is intended to delete files 
>>> that are gone from the source, and delete them in the destination (when 
>>> you overwrite a backup). Unfortunately, the paths were messed up, and it 
>>> deleted the files on the source of another different backup.
>>
>>
>> That's why you have backups of backups.
>
>
> But... what if these fail too!?
>
> 10 PRINT "That's why you have"
> 20 PRINT "backups of backups of"
> 30 GOTO 20
>
> (Ok, in reality, a second level probably already drives the likelihood
> down a lot. But, of course, this gets to be an engineering problem, and
> one gets to ask what could possibly go wrong outside of these
> likelihoods.

Yeah, diminishing returns and all.

> And one could do things such as not using the same
> approach/scripts/software for both levels. Just like NASA had BFS
> developed separately from PASS.)


I'll keep that in mind when/if i set up another backup system.
-- 
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Re: Linux PC Acting Up? How To Check For Bad Blocks On A Hard Drive - Before It's Too Late candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-08-05 19:20 +0000
  Re: Linux PC Acting Up? How To Check For Bad Blocks On A Hard Drive - Before It's Too Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 23:04 +0100
    Re: Linux PC Acting Up? How To Check For Bad Blocks On A Hard Drive - Before It's Too Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-05 19:54 -0400
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