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Re: Wheels

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Wheels
Date 2025-12-19 22:42 +0100
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On 2025-12-19 20:09, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:46:55 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Some rubber last long. This is an Opel Corsa with the factory
>> Continental rubbers.
> 
> The original rear tire on my Sportster lasted close to 20,000 miles. It
> was a Dunlop tire often referred to by Sportster riders as Dunrocks. Great
> tread life, not so great traction. I replaced them with Bridgestone
> Spitfires. I only got 8,000 miles on the rear but the miles were more
> fun :)
> 
> In the US manufacturers game the EPA fleet mileage requirements by
> installing low rolling resistance tires. You can get LRR tires with
> compounds that increase tire life but they cost more. The Yaris is
> Toyota's cheapest model so the OEM tires aren't premium. Toyota must have
> gotten a good deal because the first one had Bridgestone Potenzas which
> are usually sold as a performance tire. They are not optimized for long
> life.

I just looked at <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_rolling_resistance_tire> looking for pros and cons, but did not find them. So I asked ChatGPT:


Sure! Here’s a clear, balanced overview.

## Low Rolling Resistance (LRR) Tires — Pros & Cons

### ✅ Pros

**1. Better fuel efficiency / range**

* Reduced energy loss as the tire rolls
* Improves fuel economy in combustion cars
* Extends range in hybrids and EVs

**2. Lower CO₂ emissions**

* Less fuel or energy used → fewer emissions
* One of the easiest efficiency upgrades

**3. Quieter ride (often)**

* Many LRR tires are designed to reduce road noise
* Especially noticeable at steady highway speeds

**4. Less heat buildup**

* Lower internal friction means cooler running
* Can slightly improve tire longevity in some use cases

**5. Good for daily driving**

* Optimized for commuting and long-distance travel
* Often tuned for comfort rather than aggressive performance

---

### ❌ Cons

**1. Reduced grip (especially wet or cold)**

* Harder rubber compounds reduce rolling resistance
* Can mean longer braking distances
* Cornering grip is often lower than performance tires

**2. Worse performance in snow or ice**

* Not ideal for winter conditions unless specifically designed as LRR winter tires
* Less tread flexibility at low temperatures

**3. Less responsive handling**

* Softer sidewalls and efficiency-focused design
* Steering may feel less “connected” or sporty

**4. Can cost more**

* Advanced materials and compounds increase price
* Savings come back over time via fuel/energy savings

**5. Not ideal for heavy loads or towing**

* Efficiency-focused designs may wear faster under high loads
* Can feel less stable when fully loaded

---

### ⚖️ When LRR Tires Make Sense

* Daily commuting
* Highway driving
* Hybrids and EVs
* Drivers prioritizing efficiency, comfort, and low noise

### ⚠️ When They’re Not the Best Choice

* Sporty or aggressive driving
* Frequent snow, ice, or off-road conditions
* Towing or carrying heavy loads
* Performance-oriented vehicles

---

### Bottom line

Low rolling resistance tires trade **efficiency and comfort** for **grip and performance**. They’re excellent for economical, everyday driving but not ideal if traction and handling are top priorities.

If you want, tell me:

* Vehicle type (ICE, hybrid, EV)
* Climate
* Driving style

I can help you decide whether LRR tires are a good match or suggest alternatives.





Well, there is no snow or ice in my area, thus LRR tires are fine for me.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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