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Re: Rubber

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On Sat, 12/20/2025 7:32 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> 
> For some reason, I was using at my fifties some boots that were bought 
> when I was a teenager. Size was correct, soles had their crests and valleys, 
> not much used, but little actual grip. I finally threw them away.
> 
> About then or earlier I bough some good boots for mountain sports. I think
> I actually used them 4 times over the years, but the last time, the sole 
> got unglued from the rest of the boot, on both boots, like a gaping mouth,
> at the start of the trek. The boots were not even ten years old, maybe 6. 
> The rubber was still soft, but the boots were garbage material. Fault of 
> the glue, or one intermediate layer that decomposed.

These things don't happen by accident by the way. It's "designed" to
fail at four years. Someone is crass enough, to figure out the
interval at which "consumers will accept a defect".

Goods don't have to fail that way, and the price does not
have to increase all that much, to stop it from happening.

They're not attempting to build the best footwear possible.
Just the gravelly appearance of the material in the sole core,
shows it was designed to fail. The material in soles is
no longer as good as the footwear we used to make. There is
even less care than normal about "frictional wear characteristic".

Let us take my Weed Whacker line as an example. I go to the hardware
store, to buy line for the trimmer. I fit the line. I go to use it.
The cord snaps after about 5 seconds use. Normally, you would
auto-dispense another piece of cord. Another five seconds passes.
The piece snaps off. This has NOTHING to do with cheapness. The
line costs the same amount as decent line. But the nylon has been
fabricated for pre-mature failure, such that one trimming session
uses up the entire reel. I would not care, except my time is
wasted feeding line into the stupid thing. I gave up, and
put the trimmer away for the season, knowing I am working
with commercial IDIOTS. If every supplier does this, we're screwed.

   Paul

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