Re: Odd behaviour?

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Odd behaviour?
Date	2024-12-05 13:41 +0100
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On 2024-12-05 13:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/12/2024 11:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-05 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 05/12/2024 10:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-05 08:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 04/12/2024 18:41, Rich wrote:
>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/12/2024 22:24, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I find puzzling is how it appears in the GUI but isn't on the
>>>>>>>>> actual machine file system
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> funky characters in filename?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ls -la | cat -v
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. Still no sign
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think some part of the GUI environment builds a cache, and its in
>>>>>>> that, but not in the real world so to speak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the GUI file browser program you use under Mate?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Caja
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many "GUI file browsers" have a tendancy to "combine" plural actual
>>>>>> disk paths into the 'appearance' of a singular view (and "Desktop" is
>>>>>> one of those 'views' that GUI dev's think need this miss-feature).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is possible the file it is located somewhere other than
>>>>>> ~/Desktop/ and the GUI is merging together that other location 
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> contents of the actual ~/Desktop/, and presenting the combination to
>>>>>> you as "Desktop".
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. Still doesn't say why it cant be deleted/found Even from the 
>>>>> GUI file manager
>>>>
>>>> Because it would be on another directory.
>>>>
>>> But if the GUI knows where it is the GUI should be able to delete it.
>>
>> The GUI is not a magician.
> 
> No, but it must have consistent rules. If Caja displays it Caja can 
> delete it and the same for the desktop manager as well
> 
> The fact is it is - or was - a ghost. It only existed as far as I can 
> tell in the GUI cache...

Sigh...

The GUI filemanager is just a filemanager, and follows filemanager 
rules. It displays only ONE directory, not some desktop concoction made 
of several structures and directories.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:32 +0000
  Re: Odd behaviour? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 22:27 +0100
    Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 22:15 +0000
      Re: Odd behaviour? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-03 22:24 +0000
        Re: Odd behaviour? Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2024-12-04 12:40 +0800
          Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:24 +0000
        Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:23 +0000
          Re: Odd behaviour? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-04 18:41 +0000
            Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 07:59 +0000
              Re: Odd behaviour? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:34 +0100
                Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:06 +0000
                Re: Odd behaviour? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 12:19 +0100
                Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 12:26 +0000
                Re: Odd behaviour? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 13:41 +0100
                Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 12:48 +0000
                Re: Odd behaviour? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-05 13:12 +0000
                Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 13:56 +0000
                Re: Odd behaviour? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 15:24 +0100
                Re: Odd behaviour? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 16:57 +0000
                Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 18:02 +0000
          Re: Odd behaviour? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-12-04 19:41 +0000
            Re: Odd behaviour? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 08:37 +0000
    Re: Odd behaviour? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:29 +0100
      Re: Odd behaviour? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:42 +0100
        Re: Odd behaviour? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 14:03 +0100

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