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Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone?

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On 2023-04-03 12:57, Pancho wrote:
> On 03/04/2023 02:40, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-04-02 23:34, Pancho wrote:
>>> On 4/1/23 23:06, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>>>> Pancho <Pancho.Jo...@Proton.Me> [P]:
>>>> P> The problem with android VoIP softphones is that they tend to
>>>> P> deregister. So the ring isn't reliable.
>>>>
>>>> You just don't get it, do you? Calling a device by its (LAN) IP has
>>>> no need for registration. Try it some time and see how it goes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, that is a good point. But difficult to test, reliably. VoIP 
>>> already works, most of the time.
>>>
>>> Also, I don't know if my IP address does change regularly. Obviously, 
>>> it does when the phone moves between my wlan and the mobile/cell 
>>> network, 
>>
>> You forget we are talking of LAN alone.
> 
> No, I understand that, but I have 10 years experience of Android VoIP 
> softphones being unreliable. I'm not sure why they are unreliable, just 
> a history of mild interest, and consequent prejudice.
> 
> Someone can say my issues are due to changing external IP, that it won't 
> happen in a LAN environment, and they may be right, but I don't have 
> evidence of that.
> 
> Suggesting one potential failure mechanism does not exclude other 
> mechanisms. You haven't excluded the possibility that aggressive power 
> saving requirements, and consequent sleep states, cause the problem.
> 
> If someone could point to real life experience of an Andorid VoIP 
> clients working reliably on a LAN, with direct IP calls, or probably 
> more tractably via a LAN base PBX such as Asterisk, I would be more 
> convinced.


Have you tried to setup a phone VoIP client without a registrar, on the 
LAN? It is a different beast altogether.

Yes, of course it can fail, that is not the point.

And I am not going to use for my use case, but that is not the point either.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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  Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-03-27 18:13 +0000
    Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-03-28 00:33 +0200
  Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-03-27 17:08 -0400
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    Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? "27E.G756" <27E.G756@noq24u.net> - 2023-03-28 22:08 -0400
  Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202303.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2023-03-28 00:37 +0200
    Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2023-03-28 16:16 +0100
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      Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@Proton.Me> - 2023-03-29 22:43 +0100
        Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-03-29 22:16 +0000
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            Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-03-30 13:04 +0000
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        Re: sending a "beep" from computer to mobile phone? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@Proton.Me> - 2023-04-02 22:34 +0100
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