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Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators

From Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.ubuntu, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.x
Subject Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators
Followup-To alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Date 2016-02-28 04:10 +0100
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On Saturday 27 Feb 2016 16:05, Cybe R. Wizard conveyed the following to 
alt.os.linux.ubuntu...

> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:40:57 -0600
> Ignoramus26452 <ignoramus26452@NOSPAM.26452.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Essentially what I hope for, is a gnome session, with working
>> indicators, with fvwm as window manager. This would be the best.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that Gnome(3) requires a compositing WM.  FVWM isn't
> likely to fulfill that role.

It isn't the compositing which is the decisive factor here, but it 
should be a freedesktop.org-compliant window manager, which fvwm isn't.

freedesktop.org, by the way, is a RedHat subsidiary, and is completely 
under RedHat's control.  Officially it is an attempt to streamline the 
different desktop environments for interoperability.  Unofficially and 
in practice, what it does is force certain GNOME design features into 
other desktop environments and window managers, such as KDE, XFCE and 
LXDE.  

Furthermore, it is also the propaganda machine for RedHat's design 
philosophy regarding the entire GNU/Linux ecosystem.  Among other 
things, it was freedesktop.org which declared a separate /usr filesystem 
broken without an initramfs or initrd ─ because _they_ broke it due to 
their sloppy packaging of systemd and udev on the one hand [*], and 
their decision to move the content of /bin, /lib and /sbin under /usr ─ 
while it still isn't broken in other distributions such as Gentoo, 
PCLinuxOS, Slackware, et al.  

In other words, the breakage was and still is specific to RedHat 
derivatives only.


[*] By ─ guess who ─ Kay Sievers and Lennart Poettering, of course.  Two
    developers so excellent at their job that Linus Torvalds himself has
    forbidden them from submitting a single more patch to the Linux
    kernel until they've cleaned up their act.

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= Aragorn =

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Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus26452 <ignoramus26452@NOSPAM.26452.invalid> - 2016-02-27 08:40 -0600
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-02-27 09:05 -0600
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-02-27 09:18 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus26452 <ignoramus26452@NOSPAM.26452.invalid> - 2016-02-27 22:16 -0600
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus26452 <ignoramus26452@NOSPAM.26452.invalid> - 2016-02-27 09:29 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-27 16:31 +0000
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-27 17:45 +0100
        Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus5752 <ignoramus5752@NOSPAM.5752.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:45 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-02-27 11:23 -0600
        Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-02-27 17:28 +0000
        Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus5752 <ignoramus5752@NOSPAM.5752.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:45 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 14:58 +0000
        Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-02-28 09:19 -0600
        Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus5752 <ignoramus5752@NOSPAM.5752.invalid> - 2016-02-28 11:05 -0600
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-02-27 17:23 +0000
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-02-28 04:10 +0100
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-02-27 10:42 -0500
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-27 10:43 -0500
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus5752 <ignoramus5752@NOSPAM.5752.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:32 -0600
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-27 18:36 +0000
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-27 14:51 -0600
    Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Ignoramus5752 <ignoramus5752@NOSPAM.5752.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:31 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and  indicators Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-28 14:19 -0600
  Re: Ubuntu 14.04, how to integrate fvwm with gnome panel and indicators Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-02-28 20:39 -0800

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