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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! |
| Date | 2026-06-14 14:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n97l0uFgcntU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 2026-06-13 05:21, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/12/26 05:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-12 09:14, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/12/26 02:22, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 01:49:42 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Didn't do the server install. TRIED the XFCE first, very
>>> threadbare and hates VBox. Then KDE even though I don't
>>> like it. Has more stuff.
>>>
>>> Just started myrlyn a minute ago ... "searched" for
>>> "FORTRAN" and "COBOL" with all search-field boxes
>>> checked. NADA. Checked the "contains" box and it
>>> FINALLY found some stuff - too MUCH stuff. It's better
>>> than "discovery" but still not my old GUI YAST.
>>
>> Use "opi" to search for extra packages.
>>
>> opi fortran finds dozens of hits.
>>
>> cer@Laicolasse:~> opi cobol
>> Searching repos for: cobol
>> 1. gnucobol
>> 2. gnu-cobol
>> 3. gnucobol-esql
>> 4. gnucobol-runtime
>> 5. gnucobol-esql-devel
>> Pick a number (0 to quit):
>>
>>
>> This is not new.
>
> Is to me ... I went Deb some years ago when OS
> dropped a bunch of olde-tyme utils for no good
> reason. I used a lot of those from Python scripts
> and such. Evoke, parse, exactly the info I wanted.
>
> Now, OS looks just HORRIBLE.
>
>>> And the software SELECTION is much smaller than even
>>> a few years ago.
>>
>> Use opi.
>
> Hmm - NOT installed by default. Why not ? Barely
> different from zypper.
Not so. It is a lot different than zypper. It searches in all repos,
configured or not, and finds what repo has it. Then it adds the repo and
install the package(s), by calling zypper.
>
> After INSTALLING Yast ... the terminal version seems
> the only survivor ... it too can find obscure stuff,
> but makes installation/dependencies easier than zypper.
Do not use YaST, it is not maintained. It will cause errors eventually.
Use myrlin.
>
> Also, 'opi' is pure CLI, not a convenient and very
> helpful GUI thingie like 'synaptic'. Really NOTHING
> beats synaptic for all-around utility. 'OctoPkg'
> comes close, but it's still clunkier.
>
> Sorry, not sold. Not at all. Seen how it COULD be,
> and now they took it all away.
I don't care you don't like it. YOU HAVE to use opi to find things you
don't find with zypper or myrlin. There is no alternative.
>
> Gonna squish it into a Maybe-Someday VDI file and
> stash it somewhere deep and dark until I want the
> disk space back. NO point in wasting my time with
> today's idea of OpenSUSE.
>
> Some versions of Arch that might be interesting,
> a couple BSDs too. Never tried Gentoo ... might be
> worth a look. Did install GhostBSD on another box,
> not TOO bad, worth more time.
>
> But OpenSUSE ... past glory, modern DISAPPOINTMENT.
>
> FLUSH !
>
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 01:49 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-12 07:54 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:12 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-12 09:03 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 03:25 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 06:22 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 03:14 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-12 11:45 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 23:21 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 04:20 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-14 14:27 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 22:51 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 03:15 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:46 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:16 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-15 17:02 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 19:05 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 20:41 +0100
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 22:21 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 02:00 +0100
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 02:55 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:54 +0100
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 18:00 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 12:34 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 11:55 +0100
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:14 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:10 +0100
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 18:15 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-16 20:22 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-16 18:09 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 19:32 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-12 11:38 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 06:27 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 03:22 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-12 09:53 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 19:34 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-12 11:54 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 23:37 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 06:42 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 04:18 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 20:21 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 23:09 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 06:22 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 03:57 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:38 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:27 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-15 07:11 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2026-06-14 07:01 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-14 04:14 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-14 10:56 +0200
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-14 18:40 +0000
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-15 01:27 -0400
Re: Leap-16 ... Oh SHIT ! mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2026-06-12 13:26 +0000
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