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Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 00:58:58 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2025-11-11, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> Variety is nice and all but I think it scares the hell out of Windows
>> users. The question keeps coming up 'What distro should I use?" 
>> Well...,
>> are you doing anything for the next hour? Or, taking the other path,
>> 'Linux Mint Cinnamon!'
> 
> I'd rather teach such newcomers about this diversity and help them
> choose and assure them that they can mostly switch DEs afterwards, than
> see this as a problem because of possibly confusing or scaring Windows
> users.

I've never given it a lot of thought prior to this project. Windows and 
Apple don't require a lot of thought. It's not only DEs but the whole 
tangled family trees and the nuances that can confuse even experienced 
users. At one meeting a knowledgeable person who uses Arch referred to 
Fedora as a 'rolling distribution'. It really isn't. I upgraded from 
Fedora 42 to 43 a couple of weeks ago. However there are updated packages 
almost daily. I'm not sure which pulls down more stuff 'sudo dnf update' 
or 'sudo pacman -Syu'. 

Then you get into the whole 'Mint is downstream from Ubuntu and Ubuntu is 
downstream from Debian' thing.  Mint 22.2 has the 6.14.0-35 kernel. Ubuntu 
25.10 has 6.17.0-6, so there is some friction. I don't have the latest 
Debian release but it probably has an older kernel.  Ubuntu has decided to 
update the kernel more frequently but that hasn't trickled down to Mint.

Then there is LMDE aka the Debian Edition, that is not derived from Ubuntu 
and was developed in case Canonical goes off the deep end. 

That's not even going into OpenSUSE, Fedora, EndeavourOS, etc plus flavors 
like Kali that are basically Debian but with convenient packages for 
pentesting and other security (or hacking) oriented work.

For Windows users with an older box that can't be upgraded from Win10, 
most of this doesn't mean a damn thing. If they've heard of Linux they 
probably assume it's like Windows, and you just install 'Linux'.

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De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 04:28 +0000
  Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 10:55 +0000
    Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:14 +0000
      Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-11 11:47 -0800
        Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:32 +0000
          Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:03 +0000
      Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:22 +0000
  Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 11:35 -0800
    Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:23 +0000
  Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 00:58 +0000
    Re: De-duplicating the desktops: Let's come together, right now rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 03:52 +0000

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