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| From | .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: The Tomb of the Pharoah who went through the plagues |
| Date | 2025-04-02 15:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <m55mleF2ffqU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (20 earlier) <xMidnSiM7-ley3D6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> <2aeHP.1505441$OrR5.148322@fx18.iad> <MPG.4257453bd7f3c2d19898a4@news.usenetexpress.com> <h_eHP.1505442$OrR5.230243@fx18.iad> <m55jnrF22lnU1@mid.individual.net> |
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.../v]andrak|≡... wrote: > CrudeSausage wrote: >> On 2025-04-02 14:00, Scott Doty wrote: >>> In article <2aeHP.1505441$OrR5.148322@fx18.iad>, >>> dochammerslack@creon.earth says... >>>> >>>> NOTICE: The DOCTOR is ON...at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 08:24:28 -0700, % wrote: >>>> >>>>> .../v]andrak|=... wrote: >>>>>> % wrote: >>>>>>> .../v]andrak|=... wrote: >>>>>>>> % wrote: >>>>>>>>> .../v]andrak|=... wrote: >>>>>>>>>> % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> .../v]andrak|=... wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Ted Street wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m5038kF5khpU1@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m4vmtuF3mu0U2@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m4uanpFrennU2@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vsamrm$3cnqt$2@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote (Message-ID: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB2AF86109E894629555@185.151.15.190>): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...? >>>> =<jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in news:m4l271FccgeU2@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?=<jfwaldby@g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m4kt52FbildU3@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vs288a$2v1il$4@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<jgl1ujp9f5r2julp1ecfe911297si >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jp0fj@4ax.com>): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:57:22 -0700, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert<robert@no.way> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJP4pVjnWpk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tomb of the Pharaoh that ruled when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israelites were let go. Which included the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his 1st born son. Plus the dates of it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were several Pharaohs living at about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time of the Biblical tale of the Exodus (at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least according to a conservative reading >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> book -- to stay in step with archaeology, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent dating of the supposed Exodus is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required). They all ruled at the height of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt's power. How do you square that with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical story that would've led to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapse of the Egyptian civilization >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brought on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the loss of two million workers, if it had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually happened? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Israelites lived in the land of Egypt for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over 400 years, Therefore there were a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharaohs ruling at the same time. Joseph ruled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the land of Israel for his lifetime with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority as the Pharaoh. And if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> werenÃ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?†ââ?¬â?¢Ã?Æ?ââ?¬Å¡Ã?†>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> šÃ?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?â >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> €šÃ?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â€?Ã?¡Ã?Æ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ââ?¬Å¡Ã?‚Ã?ˆ ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?‚ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â€?Ã?Â?Ã?Æ?â >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> â?¬Å¡Ã?‚Ã?¢t for Joseph Egypt would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ruins because of the seven year famine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Israelites were enslaved and were also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheepherders and the like, so most of what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land lost were workers. Why do you assume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have been an economic collapse? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ex. 12:37 says 600,000 men on foot, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beside >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> childrenÃ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?‚Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢â‚ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¬Ã?¡Ã?‚Ã?¬ went out from Egypt. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extrapolates to around two million people making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exodus (extrapolated from Numbers 1:46). If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 2 million people left Egypt, when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire population has been estimated at around 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 4.5 million, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would have been noticed, and would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resounded in Egyptian records. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No that is an alternative reality which you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not presented. Your argument is bullshit. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that to be the case and there could be other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons such as if the Egyptians struck it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records while Corinthians I was taking place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything about Exodus is an alternative reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see why. Slavery wasn't nothing but a thang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "There are no Egyptian records that clearly document >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the enslavement of a people identifiable as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hebrews." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/between-myth-and-reality-t >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hebrews-enslavement-by-the-egyptians#google_vignette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Passover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a myth? Mar.26, 2012 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's the story contained within the bible itself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's not a remotely historically admissible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, state records and primary sources. Of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing exists. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -e ve r- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.42084 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/azjoyzd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I posted a ling here a month or so ago with a record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillar or something that mentions then wandering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desert. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ".......there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were ever enslaved in Egypt." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demonstrate this lack of evidence if you really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists and not a figment of your imagination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demonstrate a lack of evidence? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but the believers that X happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the burden of proving that it did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I point to he Bible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that Exodus, a book that is 2300 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yrs old includes documentation of Jews enslaved in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of evidence. Case closed. Robert, shut the fuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fable that is old is still a fable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is story of Pandora's Box true just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old? Is the story of King Midas true just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said there is a lack of evidence. It is a piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A claim is not evidence of it's own truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are Elvis sightings proof he is alive? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Exactly. What else would they be. Duh. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No stupid. Elvis sightings are EVIDENCE he is alive, not >>>>>>>>>>>> proof . >>>>>>>>>>>> You stupid motherfuckers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> no , but i'm glad for you you saw him >>>>>>>>>> In court there is evidence for and against a position. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Existence of evidence is not proof, stupid dumbass. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> God, are you too poor to own a dictionary? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fucking churchmouse Canadians. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm having loaded potato soup from the sandwich store. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what was he doing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't seen Elvis, but I know his continued life is less >>>>>>>> controversial than the existence of Bigfoot. He was being taken >>>>>>>> away >>>>>>>> by a UFO in the program I saw. It drove the person mad who watched >>>>>>>> it with me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> oh so you've been where they saw him , i get it now >>>>>> >>>>>> yes it was a Pink Floyd laser light show and they did a song called >>>>>> 'they have Elvis in a UFO'. The older guy with said it made him go >>>>>> mad. >>>>>> I think he just wanted to dis on a show I recommended we go see. >>>>>> >>>>> i don't do things like that >>>> >>>> It's also not a Pink Floyd song. Sounds fishy to me. >>>> >>>> >>> When I get stoned I like to listen to Pink Floyd & eat a lot. >>> >>> I have become comfortably plump. >> >> Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in >> shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be >> once I'm closer to retirement. >> > > I'm not so certain of this. _With chemical aid_, I have reduced my > appetite and am maintaining my current weight. Maybe I care more about > it because my life is more fragile and I need to be extra vigilant. But > I'm not really predictable if you were watching me. My diabetes doctor > let me have a month without metformin/Ozempic/etc. sgtarting today. I > lodged a maximal blood sugar. I had a reeses peanut butter a > butterfinger one other candy bar i forget and a Hawaiian Punch. My > blood sugar was 348 this morning. I want them to see what I am up > against and may do the same tomorrow, I'm not sure. Maybe I'll be > subtle and let just one high blood sugar speak for itself like a weird > anomaly. > Oh right I remember now - I had a Tropical Skittles too, not another candy bar. It was very satisfying all these candies and punch to fill my stomach early in the morning when I had been displaced from my bed by maintenance. 348! That's high if you didn't know. I think people can lose consciousness from 500. -- Wears a paper bag like ab oxygeb mask till your mibd starts to gel 'Cause the ball in the can has a crazy beat The funky dyin brain cell
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