Re: Turn Your Radio On ...

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Turn Your Radio On ...
Date	2025-02-02 20:27 +0000
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On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 10:20:29 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> PAL crystals were used in some markets to be compatible with the TVs
>> but never had the off label reach.
> 
> I don't actually understand that statement

Several home computers had US and European versions and would use the PAL 
or NTSC crystals to be able to generate video. However, at least in the 
US, NTSC crystals were dirt cheap and used in applications that had 
nothing to do with TVs. One example is DTMF decoders.

https://www.electronics-diy.com/dtmf-decoder-using-mt8870.php

Unless you had some compelling reason when building a Z80A board using a 
crystal you could pick up at RadioShack was the way to go. It was also a 
handy frequency for the 80M ham band, and 40M with a doubler. 

Maybe PAL crystals were used like that in Europe. No clue.

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                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:00 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:01 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:10 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:29 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:22 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:30 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:22 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:37 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:29 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:00 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:25 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:45 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 12:52 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 17:30 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:27 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:05 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:41 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 17:44 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 20:15 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:26 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 21:40 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 01:28 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 03:49 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:16 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:24 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:46 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:44 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:40 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:09 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:21 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:39 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:48 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 13:12 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 17:32 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:12 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:01 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 20:30 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:28 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 19:45 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-28 05:38 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-28 03:13 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:25 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-28 20:01 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 22:00 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:09 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:00 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:38 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:53 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:04 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:19 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:29 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:12 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:51 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-25 20:01 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:53 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:38 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:12 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:22 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:42 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:40 +0000
    Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 07:48 +0000
      Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 10:34 +0100
        Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 20:11 +0000
          Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 22:31 +0100
            Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 22:55 +0000
              Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 00:05 +0000
        Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 21:34 -0500
          Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:53 +0100
            Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:34 +0000
              Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:02 +0100
      Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 20:08 +0000
        Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:55 +0000
  Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-21 18:22 -0500

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