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Re: Time machine backups

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Subject Re: Time machine backups
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 02:49:11 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
<lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote in
<slrnvnrpt7.2oheu.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>:

> On 2025-01-07, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> Bought a 4TB external USB/NVME device for my workstation. Installed
>> Samba and configured it to use the "fruit" module to offer up a Time
>> Machine share for the Mac Studio. (Also using it with Timeshift on the
>> workstation itself, but that part was easier.)
>>
>> (Backups are good; automated versioned backups are better.)
> 
> I have setup "time machine" backups on two of my servers, using rsync to
> a local external drive, but I have not figured out how to do it to a
> Samba share. On the local external drive, using ext4 file system, hard
> links make it very space efficient, but I don't think you can do that
> with a Samba mounted remote drive. Any hints? Do you run the rsync on
> the file server, so that you can do the hard links on the backup drive's
> ext4 file system while the backup server sees its production client as
> the remote Samba mount?
> 
> And is there a way to use a cheap remote "storage box" that is only
> accessible as a Samba NAS as the versioned storage medium with similarly
> good storage efficiency?

I'm not doing anything on the backend except provide the
Samba share.  MacOS Time Machine has it's own format
for storing versioned data, which is fairly opaque when
looking at the files on the backend filesystem.

Here's the web page with the recipe I followed:

https://blog.jhnr.ch/2023/01/09/setup-apple-time-machine-network-drive-with-samba-on-ubuntu-22.04/

I _assume_ it's space efficient, with either incremental or
differential backups -- but I'm watching it carefully to make
sure that turns out to be the case.

Our Mac Studio is named "Mac Studio".  On the server side, I see
in the share's directory a subdirectory, "Mac Studio.sparsebundle",
which contains various files and directories, including one
named "bands".  That directory contains multiple files of length
536870912 bytes, which would seem to be the backup(s) themselves,
in a structure managed by MacOS.

I'm also using Timeshift (not Time Machine) on my Linux
workstation, which backs up directly to the ext4 filesystem
on the external drive with rsync.  I'm pretty sure that uses
hard links to be space-efficient.  (It would be even better
and faster if it hard-linked directories, but that's not a
BCP for Unix.)

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.12.8 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
   "If at first you don't succeed, then Sky Diving is not for you!"

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                Time machine backups Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-08 02:49 +0000
                Re: Time machine backups vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 04:22 +0000
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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 07:19 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:17 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 08:59 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:37 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:27 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:04 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 13:05 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 14:47 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 23:50 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:58 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:16 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:56 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 13:25 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:44 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:51 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 13:04 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:31 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:02 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 12:00 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:38 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:39 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:55 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:33 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:28 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 20:45 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:35 +0000
                Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-15 02:33 +0000
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-15 06:30 +0200
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:49 -0500
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:12 +0100
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:53 +0000
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 18:55 +0100
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 18:28 +0000
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 22:16 +0100
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:21 +0000
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:05 +0100
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:11 -0500
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:52 +0100
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:51 +0000
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:17 -0500
                Re: Races, Tribes and other ethnicities rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:20 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 09:59 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:59 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 18:58 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 22:47 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:48 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:05 +0100
                Tribes and Ethnicities Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-16 13:30 +0000
                Re: Tribes and Ethnicities Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-16 20:36 +0200
                Re: Tribes and Ethnicities The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:50 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:01 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 11:53 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 22:45 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:57 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:03 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:24 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 11:52 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-16 08:08 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:40 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:27 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-13 05:14 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 04:02 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:35 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:33 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:28 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:38 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 20:46 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:37 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:00 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:14 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:33 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:08 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:03 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:29 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:26 +0000
                Biker Gangs Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:43 +0000
                Re: Biker Gangs D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:02 +0100
                Re: Biker Gangs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 02:11 +0000
                Re: Biker Gangs D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:04 +0100
                Re: Biker Gangs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 10:50 +0000
                Re: Biker Gangs D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 18:54 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 19:46 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:54 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:54 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:13 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:26 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 21:53 +0000
                Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-14 17:40 +0000
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 01:57 +0000
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 00:29 -0500
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 06:27 +0000
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 01:51 -0500
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:11 +0100
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:06 +0000
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 11:56 +0100
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:39 -0500
                Re: Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:51 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 19:31 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 19:39 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:01 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:55 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:59 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:15 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:26 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:13 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:01 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 13:55 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 14:00 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:25 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-09 04:16 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:34 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 10:38 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:27 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:34 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:51 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 02:23 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 11:31 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 11:47 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 12:12 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 18:56 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-08 19:57 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 12:04 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:46 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:16 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:47 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:43 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:09 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:06 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:29 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 01:25 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:54 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:52 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 13:22 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 09:02 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 15:34 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 11:32 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 18:14 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-08 15:00 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 20:19 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:16 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 10:11 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 00:00 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:16 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:30 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:47 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:28 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:50 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:52 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-09 17:43 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:42 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:27 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:51 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:33 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:26 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:17 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:02 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:50 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:48 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:54 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 00:48 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:57 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:15 -0500
                The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:15 +0000
                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:47 +0100
                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 14:17 +0000
                Re: The Joys of African (and other 3rd world) construction projects D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 21:59 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-09 00:04 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 11:18 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:33 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 15:38 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:27 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-10 03:34 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 09:09 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 01:15 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 07:12 -0500
                Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-10 21:17 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:45 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-11 01:11 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-11 05:23 +0200
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 00:48 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 07:02 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:00 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:50 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:19 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:02 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 22:19 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:51 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:09 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:46 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:48 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:43 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:05 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:49 +0100
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-12 14:06 +0100
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                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 13:46 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:00 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:52 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:09 +0000
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                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:51 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:32 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:03 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-14 00:52 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 04:13 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 04:18 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 21:55 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 21:11 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-14 12:28 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-14 22:00 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-14 23:15 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:07 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:16 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:18 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:13 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-16 00:28 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:27 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:39 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 16:57 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:06 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:51 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:23 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:40 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:08 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:31 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:33 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-12 17:06 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-12 18:53 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:16 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:51 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 20:48 +0100
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-01-13 16:17 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:24 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:32 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-12 21:47 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 02:41 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2025-01-13 03:00 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:47 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 22:56 +0000
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:29 -0500
                Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:24 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:23 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:10 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 11:53 +0100
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:03 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:56 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:13 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 09:21 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 14:58 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:44 +0100
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 11:03 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 19:36 +0100
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 20:30 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-13 10:20 +0100
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 04:32 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 12:03 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 10:38 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-13 13:11 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:04 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 19:52 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:23 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:00 -0500
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 06:59 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:46 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:54 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:44 +0000
                Re: Diversity - good or bad ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 10:39 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 22:15 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:06 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:00 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-11 21:57 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:33 +0000
                The Joys of Motorola Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-12 14:40 +0000
                Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 00:19 +0000
                Re: The Joys of Motorola "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:56 -0500
                Re: The Joys of Motorola rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:46 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 19:38 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 02:46 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-11 23:08 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 07:05 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:23 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 21:19 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 00:21 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 06:17 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-13 03:23 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-14 03:42 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-14 03:59 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:48 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:29 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-12 00:41 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:42 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 18:01 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:51 -0600
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 00:46 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-04 23:31 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 13:03 +0100
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                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-05 16:45 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-05 17:31 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-05 20:59 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-05 23:47 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-06 02:23 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:50 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-06 12:12 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:41 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:57 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:53 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:07 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:49 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 19:01 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-06 11:49 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-06 18:35 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-06 20:38 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 04:58 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-08 00:29 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 10:38 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 10:50 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 12:06 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:48 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 18:35 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-11 12:49 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-07 11:46 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-07 11:11 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-07 19:47 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-07 23:14 -0500
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-08 11:24 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-08 11:52 +0000
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-09 17:45 +0100
                Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-08 17:27 +0000
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