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On 2026-04-01 14:09, J. J. Lodder wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-03-30 23:27, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2026-03-30 17:32, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 12:56:56 +0200, "Carlos E.R." >>>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> All I know is that my front tyres are 230 and the back ones 220 >>>>>>> unloaded and 250 fully loaded. >>>>>> >>>>>> Current cars are about that, but my first car used 1.2 (ie 120). Curious >>>>>> increase. >>>>> >>>>> How old was your first car? >>>> >>>> 1985, possibly. A Renault Super 5 TL, with a motor with 42 "horses" >>>> (CV). The engine was so small that it occupied half of the space >>>> designed for it; on the super turbo copa model, it filled the space: >>>> drop a nut anywhere and it doesn't reach the floor. That car was a >>>> killer. I mean, people died in it. It needed a profesional driver, the >>>> turbo kicked in like a horse at some rpm. Enter a curve, drop the shift >>>> one level, the turbo kicks in, and instead of motor brake you get >>>> beastly motor acceleration, and the car goes out of the road like a >>>> cannon ball. So said the folk story. >>>> >>>> My car weighted 850 Kg. >>> >>> Good drivers shift down before the turn, >>> and accelerate into it, >> >> Yes, I know. A front wheel drive inscribes inside the curve when >> accelerating. The R5 copa turbo was a beast, tremendous acceleration >> kicking in at maybe 3000 rpm with the turbo. Took people by surprise. >> Later cars the turbo entered gradually, but this one kicked in. >> >> Hearsay, never had that car. > > Obviously, or even looked at the specs. > The Renault 5 Turbo has only an exterior resembling the family car. > It was a special design rally car, > with a mid/rear engine and rear wheel drive. > Renault did produce a 'street-legal' version > to allow it to compete in certain catagories. Yes, I was thinking of the street-legal version. > > And latest: Renault is trying to cash in on its former reputation > by announcing a fully electric R5 look-alike at a modest price, Ah. I thought it was a Clio. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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