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Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada
Date 2025-04-02 14:19 +0200
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On 2025-04-02 13:39, c186282 wrote:
> On 4/2/25 7:14 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-04-02 12:49, vallor wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 21:29:48 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
>>> <UQ-dndQV6amaDnH6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> Here's an interesting problem ....
>>>>
>>>> I re-mount USB drives onto NFS share points. The problem is that NFS
>>>> doesn't SEE that - it only sees the previously empty dir instead.
>>>> Add a tag file to that dir and that's ALL you will see in the share on
>>>> another PC.
>>>>
>>>> Tried variations of exportfs ... including the '-r' and '-au' then '-a'
>>>> AFTER doing the mount. Sorry, the clients can't see the mount. The NFS
>>>> stuff seems to cut in very early - before the USB re-mounts (done
>>>> @reboot). If you look on the host machine you DO see the USB drives, 
>>>> but
>>>> NEVER over the NFS share.
>>>>
>>>> Why re-mount the USBs ? Because you can't always rely on Linux to mount
>>>> them in the same order, used to be even the same place.
>>>> '/media/<user>/whatever' seems hard-wired these days, but with multiple
>>>> USB drives you still can't count on drive 1 being the drive 1 in
>>>> /media/<user>. Kinda depends on which comes online first.
>>>> Naming the drives helps, but even then.
>>>>
>>>> And no, symlinks to some other mount point don't work ... NFS just
>>>> shares a link to nowhere on the clients. 'hard' links ???
>>>>
>>>> Have ONE share that's not a re-mounted anything - THAT always shows
>>>> perfectly on the clients. Weird thing, somehow, at one point I DID get
>>>> it to work - but not sure HOW. Just commented-out the old NFS and fstab
>>>> stuff, so I've been able to re-try, but now none work. Set 
>>>> everything to
>>>> 775 or 777 for development work, but that doesn't help.
>>>>
>>>> SAMBA - this sort of thing works fine, but I've had horrible probs with
>>>> SAMBA with the latest distros, ALWAYS intractable permissions issues no
>>>> matter the tweaks, hence using NFS.
>>>>
>>>> So ... any insights on how to get NFS to "see" whatever IS mounted to
>>>> the share point AT THE MOMENT ???
>>>>
>>>> Oh, latest MX Linux.
>>>
>>> Take a look at "man exports" under the "nohide" option.
>>
>> Ah, yes.
>>
>> Last line says "not if you use NFSv4". The hiding doesn't happen with 
>> version 4.
>>
>> Reminds me of something. How does one know what version is actually used?
> 
> 
>    /var/libs/nfs/etab reads "NFS4"

No such file here, not even the directory. It is "/var/lib/nfs/etab" here.

But no, the version is not there:

/data/hoard_1	192.168.2.0/24(rw,sync,wdelay,hide,nocrossmnt,secure,no_root_squash,no_all_squash,subtree_check,secure_locks,acl,no_pnfs,fsid=10,anonuid=65534,anongid=65534,sec=sys,rw,secure,no_root_squash,no_all_squash)

> 
>    But remounts to the shared dir still do
>    not register.
> 
>    I'd LIKE NFS to reflect WHATEVER THE HELL I currently
>    have mounted to that share dir.
> 
>    Or maybe it just CAN'T ??? There ARE reasons I stuck
>    with SAMBA so long ... it (used to) Just Work.


As I said, I restart the server. Or perhaps, "exportfs -r".


Actually, I have a server machine with external disks, and they are just mounted and exported properly, no issues.

Except that if the disk is not mounted, nfs doesn't start.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-01 21:29 -0400
  Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 12:35 +0200
    Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-02 11:48 +0100
      Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 13:18 +0200
        Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-02 18:04 +0100
          Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 05:51 -0400
            Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-03 11:08 +0100
            Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:07 +0200
              Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 11:27 -0400
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-04-03 18:36 +0200
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-03 18:09 +0100
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 16:42 -0400
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 15:27 -0400
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-03 18:08 +0100
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 20:48 +0200
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 15:49 -0400
  Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-02 10:49 +0000
    Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-02 07:12 -0400
    Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 13:14 +0200
      Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-02 07:39 -0400
        Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 14:19 +0200
          Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-02 08:38 -0400
            Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 15:30 +0200
      Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-02 11:40 +0000
        Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-02 08:08 -0400
          Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 14:25 +0200
        Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-02 14:15 +0200
          Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-04-03 16:40 +1000
            Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 06:19 -0400
              Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:03 +0100
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-03 07:27 -0400
                Re: Here's One - NFS - Mounting Over Share = Nada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:38 +0100

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