Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead"

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead"
Date	2026-01-26 13:13 +0100
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On 2026-01-26 11:46, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-01-25, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-01-24 12:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 23/01/2026 23:33, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>> What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc,
>>>> so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not?
>>>
>>> Many configurations are stored in /home/username
>>>
>>> The answer is to have a skelatal /home  populated before you mount
>>> the real home volume over it
>>
>> That way a user might not know that /home is not mounted, create files
>> on root partition until it fills up, and later have problems
>> recovering the files in either place.
>>
>> The best thing if /home can not be mounted is to crash. Have the user
>> solve the situation however he sees fit, which can be to use root
>> instead. His decision then.
> 
> Have the graphical login manager (if this is the problem here) depend on
> the service/script which mounts filesystems and fail if /home does not
> get mounted, or if the script has any failure, leaving you with just the
> virtual console terminal emulators?
> 
> That way you know something is amiss. What fails here is if you're still
> able to graphically login as root and you want the login screen
> available for that.
> 

Normally systemd drops the machine into emergency mode.
But a non writeable /home can happen days after boot. Disk full or 
corrupted.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-01-15 06:19 +0000
  Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-15 03:00 -0500
    Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 13:44 +0100
  Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-15 21:14 +0000
    Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 23:47 +0000
      Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 08:35 +0000
        Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 13:48 +0100
          Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 14:57 +0000
            Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 22:31 +0100
              Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-17 10:52 +1000
                Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-17 03:49 +0100
                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-17 03:26 +0000
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                Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-17 14:25 +0100
              Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-17 13:11 +0000
                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-17 18:20 +0000
                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-19 11:45 +0000
                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-19 14:27 +0100
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                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 04:16 +0000
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                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 09:58 +0000
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                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 11:28 +0000
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                Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-21 22:04 +0100
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