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| Subject | Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? |
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
| Organization | wokiesux |
| Date | 2024-12-15 23:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kqWcncQk8M9DLcL6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> (permalink) |
On 12/15/24 1:46 AM, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:57:52 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> "Stochastic" basically means "guessing". > > Pretty much. For example if you're building a classifier you split your > labeled data into two chunks, one for training and one for testing. Rinse > and repeat until the output is good enough. If your image classified > mistakes a black for a gorilla there will be hell to pay. > > In the training process some randomness is often introduced on purpose. > The problem is local maxima (or minima depending on how you prefer to > thing). If you picture a three dimensional surface with mountains and > valleys gradient descent tends to get stuck, > > For example, assume you're hiking in mountainous terrain and you algorithm > is to always head uphill. Sooner or later you'll find yourself at a place > where all choices are downhill, but it isn't the highest hill around. You > need to roll the dice to get off it. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_annealing > > There's a nice little animation if you scroll down a bit. > > After training you really hope that the result will be deterministic. You > don't want the cat to be alive on one run and dead on the next. Or a dog. > > Differentiating cats and dogs is one of the 'hello world' projects in ML. > Sometimes the results aren't what you hoped for. In one sample set the > dogs tended to be photographed outdoors and the cats indoors. Whatever > magic went on in training the result was the 'intelligence' was really > good at sorting outdoor images from indoor ones. It didn't know jack about > dogs and cats. Indeed, it's NOT always "easy". Ridiculously simplistic goal defs lead to ridiculous results. Yet, even a bug or lizard or chipmunk can figure it all out almost instantly ....... We're doing something wrong.
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-11 10:35 +0000
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:35 +0100
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:29 +0100
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 16:34 +0000
Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 22:20 -0500
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 06:20 +0000
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-11 23:14 -0500
Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 04:34 -0500
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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 16:21 +0000
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