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Re: Date and time format

From Jeroen <jeroen@nospam.please>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Date and time format
Date 2011-06-23 20:59 +0200
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On 06/23/2011 02:04 PM, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
> 
> 
> Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> 
>> This morning I tried to to find out how to set the time format
>> for the Thunderbird mail client to 24-hour format. Before I
>> knew it, I was digging into 'locale', environment variables
>> with unlikely names and cryptic values, startup scripts, etc,
>> etc.
>>
>> This is an incredibly convoluted mess! Who thought this up?
>> What drugs were they on?
>>
>> What's wrong with 'System preferences -> date format'?
>> I'm by no means a Mac fan, but at least they got that right.
>>
>> Help! Linux is being fucked up by feature junkies!
> 
> This is actually a libc thing.
> man locale.
> Switching from a US to a GB locale will probably get you what you want.

Yeah, maybe. That's the whole problem. The actual format is hidden
behind some obscure (I'm sure some would call it 'abstract') mnemonic,
and it requires a good deal of effort and knowledge to figure out what
it does. And it's likely to have a number of undesirable side effects,
too.

This is *not* the right right way to do it!

I've been a Linux user since 1999, but for me, it's a tool, not a
purpose all by itself. To efficiently use a tool, it mustn't change
its behaviour too often. Linux was still compact and efficient in
1999, but these days it's become a baroque and bloated contraption
just like some well known software products from the Redmond area.

Sigh! Thanks for your comment, nonetheless.

Jeroen Belleman

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Date and time format Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2011-06-23 09:21 +0200
  Re: Date and time format faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2011-06-23 19:51 +1000
    Re: Date and time format Jeroen <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2011-06-23 23:47 +0200
      Re: Date and time format faeychild <faeychild@noname.afraid.org> - 2011-06-24 09:33 +1000
      Re: Date and time format Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2011-06-24 11:04 -0400
  Re: Date and time format Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2011-06-23 14:04 +0200
    Re: Date and time format Jeroen <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2011-06-23 20:59 +0200
    Re: Date and time format Aleksandar_B <aleks@ndar.b> - 2011-06-25 01:54 +0200
      Re: Date and time format Feranija <feranija@net...> - 2011-06-24 18:22 -0700
        Re: Date and time format Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2011-06-28 16:38 +0200
          Re: Date and time format Tim Watts <tw@dionic.net> - 2011-06-28 17:11 +0100
            Re: Date and time format Jeroen <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2011-06-28 22:55 +0200

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