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On 2025-09-27 17:03, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 22-09-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit : >> On 2025-09-21 19:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 21/09/2025 18:28, rbowman wrote: >>>> I'm not fond of kings but an enlightened ruler might not be worse than a >>>> bunch of self-serving politicians doing the will of the highest bidder. >>> >>> TBH there is very little difference. >>> The only thing about kings is that you can't vote them out, They need to >>> be murdered. >> >> Yes, they can be voted out. >> >> King Alfonso XIII of Spain was voted out, the republicans won the vote. >> A bit controversial this point, though, but the fact is that he >> consequently fled the country voluntarily. There were no hordes trying >> to kill him or whatever, he left more or less silently. >> >> The murdering came when the military and the right wing made war to >> remove the II Republic and put a dictatorship. >> >> >> I think there was another instance previously of an ousted king or >> queen, but I don't recall the details. No murdering, either. > > And in a country close to yours, a revolution was done in a very good > way. Of course, I'm not speaking about France in which I'm happy to live > without a king but I can't say that the way the revolution was done was > good. I'm speaking about your other neighbour which should inspire more > people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution :-) > > What I mean is: even if most revolutions are spreading blood, it's not a > requirement. I don't know if The Spanish Transition is a revolution or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_transition_to_democracy We went from a dictatorship to a democracy without bullets. Arguably the transition had defects we are still suffering, but still, no bullets. We had terrorism, yes, with too many deaths. But not all directly related to The Transition. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: Ousting a king Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 15:03 +0000
Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:24 +0200
Re: Ousting a king Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-04 20:35 +0000
Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-05 22:14 +0200
Re: Ousting a king Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-05 10:34 +0100
Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-05 22:02 +0200
Re: Ousting a king Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-08 18:24 +0100
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