Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it”

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it”
Date	2026-01-23 14:37 +0100
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On 2026-01-23 06:55, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 12:30:39 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
>> 	I am fine with root and with user passwords and even machine
> passwords.
>>
>> 	Well here is a little article written some time ago.
>> 		Why PCLinuxOS Shuns sudo Use
>> < https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201205/page11.html>
> 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/pclinuxos-used-to-be-great-for-linux-
> newbies-but-not-anymore/
> 
> As I've mentioned before, I think Wallen is a hack, but so it goes. This
> has piqued my curiosity though. How many current distros as you to set a
> root password during the installation versus going the 'Ubuntu' route and
> using sudo unless you go out of your way to create a root password and
> activate the root account?
> 
> I can su on the Arch box although I use sudo.
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReduceInitialSetupRedundancy
> 
> This talks about live installs of Fedora Workstation and not the spins but
> by the time I installed the KDE spin the root password creation had been
> dropped.


openSUSE creates a root user with the same password as the first user, 
by default. You can click somewhere and use a different password.

sudo works with the user password, at least for the 1st user. I have not 
tried a second user.

[...]

A second user can sudo to root with root's password.

Tested on 16.0.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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“What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-20 21:00 +0000
  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-20 13:15 -0800
    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 08:21 +0000
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  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-20 21:43 +0000
    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 23:28 +0100
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 03:44 +0000
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 23:07 -0500
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    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 19:47 -0500
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-21 01:40 +0000
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            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 07:35 -0500
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            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:50 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 19:12 -0500
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-22 00:20 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 10:12 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-22 20:40 +0000
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                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-22 20:13 +0000
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                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-23 05:55 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 14:37 +0100
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-23 22:09 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 23:27 +0100
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        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 11:19 +0100
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:44 +0000
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          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:51 +0000
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 03:06 +0100
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                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-25 15:05 +0100
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