Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?

From	D <nospam@example.net>
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Subject	Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
Date	2024-12-18 19:48 +0100
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Rich wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>>> This is a very good point! I read today that a 21 day ban on smartphones in
>>>> UK schools resulted in better psychological health/well being, and better
>>>> sleep, and a 3% memory improvement.
>>>
>>>  Today's kiddies are plagued by 'social' and political
>>>  BS which constantly tries to twist their brains into
>>>  knots. For SM it means PROFIT ... for political interests
>>>  it's produced a gen of near-psychotics which can be
>>>  twisted around the proverbial finger.
>>
>> This is the truth. I see it in the class room every single day. If the exam is
>> hard, they would never dream of working harder or study more. Instead they
>> complain to the school that the teacher is evil, and refuse to take the exam
>> until it is made easier.
>
> I wonder how some of these pansies would have responded to the digital
> logic design exams I had long ago in university.  The prof. told
> everyone the rules up front: open book, open notes, and the kicker: an
> exam suitable for a 70min period, but we had 50min to take it.

Haha, they would have died. ;)

I vaguely remember my digital electronics exam. You had to design some 
kind of memory I think, by hand, drawing all the gates and stuff. Good 
times! The analog electronics exam though, was horrible! ;)

> After the first one, I worked out why the "70min in 50min time slot".
> The digital logic design problems that were suitable for a pencil and
> paper exam had a hard complexity knee at about the 4-5 bits point.  4-5
> bits or less and one could solve the Karnaugh maps on paper by hand.
> And even 5 bits was 'pushing it', paper complexity wise.  Anything
> beyond was in the realm of "you now need a computer solver for this".
> So all the problems on the exams ended up being /easy enough/
> (relatively speaking) that 50min of problems in 50min of exam time
> meant that nearly the entire class would score 95+ (out of 100).  So to
> separate out those who truly understood from those just getting by
> required "too many problems" to solve in time.  The good students had
> no problem finishing a 70min exam in 50 minutes and scoring 95+ on them
> (myself and another classmate named Scott proved that fact).  The "ok"
> students would get most of the exam done, and score in the 75-90 range.
> And the actual mediocre students would be the ones scoring the sub 75
> scores because they cracked open the book (and if you needed to crack
> open the book, it meant you were not going to score well on the exam,
> making the whole "open book, open note" rule moot).
>
> There was bitching and moaning on the part of the mediocre students
> after each exam, but nothing changed because of their bitching and
> moaning.

I do this in another course. 45 questions in 60 minutes. If you need to 
google stuff, you won't have time to finish the exam.

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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 16:55 +0000
  Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 21:59 +0100
  Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-11 13:49 +0000
    Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-11 17:20 +0100
      Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-11 16:44 +0000
        Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-11 21:59 +0100
          Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 02:45 +0000
            Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:32 +0100
              Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 20:57 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:06 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:01 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:31 +0100
      Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 02:38 +0000
        Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:27 +0100
          Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-12 19:20 +0000
            Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 21:29 +0100
              Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-13 13:54 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:43 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 19:13 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 20:21 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:29 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:18 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 01:46 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 11:36 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 18:53 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 23:04 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-16 03:18 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 10:30 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-15 21:18 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 23:12 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-16 03:10 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 10:29 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-16 00:54 -0500
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 10:56 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-17 04:39 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-18 19:48 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-16 11:51 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 14:29 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-16 14:05 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 19:41 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-16 20:44 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-17 10:26 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 10:25 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-18 19:54 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 22:28 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-19 10:47 +0100
          Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 20:53 +0000
            Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:04 +0100

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