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Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out
Date 2026-03-16 22:10 +0100
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On 2026-03-16 21:04, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 13:05:08 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 16/03/2026 04:51, c186282 wrote:
>>> I've explained why I won't go fiber - it would be THE
>>>     excuse to zap my great old landline phone forever.
>>
>> I bless the last day I ever had to have a carburettor in my daily
>> drive...
> 
> Two of my bikes still have carbs. No problem. When a friend got a real job
> he bought a Volvo. We'd spent our college years keeping old junk running
> and knew our way around engines.
> 
> This was the early '70s and the Volvo had a primitive ECU under the
> passenger seat and I managed to kick a cable loose getting in. The car
> wouldn't start, so we got out and popped the hood. We realize we were in a
> brave new world when the damn thing didn't even have a carb.
> 
> Years later when I bought a Toyota I assumed the ignition wires were under
> the plastic shroud. Wrong again. Each plug has its own coil. I can't say I
> miss the wires. I had a first generation Audi with a computer that decided
> the ignition wires were bad every 15,000 miles and wouldn't start. I
> carried a spare set. Replace the wires, and I was good for another 15k.
> There wasn't any misfiring or other symptoms, it just decided it needed
> new wires.
> 
> I can't wait for AI automotive control systems making random decisions.

Ha!

My car has a canister with coal (graphite?) absorbing the vapours from 
the gasoline tank. Then a valve allows those gases in the intake to be 
burned. That valve is computer activated several times per second (has a 
name that I forget). It broke. As a result, the computer could not 
regulate gasoline flow correctly and the idle varied, probably fuel 
expenditure was worse.

Then the display said "engine failure", yellow alarm. As a result, the 
computer decided the engine was not reliable and disabled the anti-skid 
system. As a result, another alarm went up, and the car would refuse to 
accelerate to 120 Km/h.

And no, the computer log did not say exactly what was wrong. The boss 
(older than the other chaps) in the garage recognized the symptoms when 
I said that idle varied. He had another car recently with the same problem.

Two visits. In the first one they blamed the economic gasoline I was buying.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 03:38 -0400
  Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-03-14 09:52 +0000
    Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 06:07 -0400
      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-03-14 10:15 +0000
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 06:25 -0400
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:18 +0000
            Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 17:19 +0000
      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:53 +0100
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-03-14 18:48 +0000
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:45 +0100
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 21:47 -0400
      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:16 +0000
    Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:12 +0000
  Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:51 +0100
  Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 13:03 +0000
    Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 21:49 -0400
  Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 17:13 +0000
  Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-03-14 22:03 +0100
    Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 02:09 +0000
      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-14 19:23 -0700
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 22:26 -0400
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 05:03 +0000
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-15 04:11 -0400
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-15 09:00 -0700
      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-03-15 10:05 +0100
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-15 20:51 +0000
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-15 21:25 +0000
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-03-16 00:30 +0100
            Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:36 +0000
              Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-03-16 06:00 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 06:19 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-03-16 09:52 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 05:15 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 20:05 +0000
      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 00:51 -0400
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 05:59 +0000
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:05 +0000
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 09:50 -0400
            Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 14:11 +0000
              Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-17 01:47 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 18:27 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-18 03:36 -0400
            Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:00 +0100
              Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-17 03:05 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-17 12:43 +0100
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-16 20:04 +0000
            Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:10 +0100
              Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-17 09:14 +0000
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                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 06:10 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-17 09:19 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:35 +0000
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                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-17 12:48 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-18 00:25 +0000
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                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:35 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 00:49 +0000
              Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-17 00:41 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 12:04 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 08:49 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 16:40 +0000
              Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-17 03:09 -0400
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      Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-14 19:23 -0400
        Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-15 11:00 +0200
          Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-15 20:22 -0400
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                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-17 11:44 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-17 13:02 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-18 08:23 +1000
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                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-17 20:39 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-17 21:06 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-17 18:10 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-18 13:25 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-18 20:33 +0000
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                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-20 14:57 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-20 20:54 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-21 00:29 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-20 21:08 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-21 02:51 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-21 09:54 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-21 12:27 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-21 00:27 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-20 21:09 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-21 09:54 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-21 12:32 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-21 13:11 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-21 19:12 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:03 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-22 15:59 -0400
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-22 22:40 +0200
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 10:06 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-22 15:37 +0000
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-21 17:39 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-21 18:24 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-21 21:33 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 10:06 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 17:31 +0100
                Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-17 18:03 -0400
            Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-16 11:01 +0200
    Re: Small Practical Usenet-Related Question - Keep Thunderbird From Dropping Out 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-04-21 00:12 +0200

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