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Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

From Gremlin <nobody@haph.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Date 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
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John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> news:20251120145948.00000987@gmail.com 
Thu, 20 Nov 2025 22:59:48 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 22:23:47 -0000 (UTC)
> Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
> 
>> I never thought macro support was a good idea. MS disagreed and many 
>> corporations and end users used the technology. 
> 
> It's a good idea *on paper* (as an expansion of office-productivity
> features like mail-merge which have been around forever,) but the
> extent to which MS enabled it to hook into damn near everything not
> just in Office but the broader Win32 environment created a *plethora*
> of security issues that should really have been obvious to anybody who
> gave it fifteen minutes of consideration.

Which is why I didn't think it was a good idea. I should have provided 
more details and included the context you provided. :)

>> You can't depend on a files extension to actually be what the file is.
> 
> Once upon a time you could, in MS-land, but Win95 and Windows Explorer
> hopelessly muddied the waters on this in trying to make file-type
> handling semi-transparent :/

Hmm. I don't remember a time in MS days from DOS to Windows that the file 
extension could absolutely be trusted. Even under the days of DOS, the 
extension didn't really matter if you did this:
HITHERE.TXT for the example is really an .exe file. 

; Assume a command string "HITHERE.TXT" is in memory
; and a valid parameter block is also set up.

MOV AH, 4Bh       ; EXEC - Execute Program
MOV AL, 00h       ; Load and execute
MOV DX, OFFSET command_string ; DS:DX points to command string
MOV BX, OFFSET param_block    ; ES:BX points to parameter block
INT 21h

You couldn't type hithere.txt from a command prompt and it execute, sure. 
But, you could do something like the above in asm/another language of 
choice and it would, if it was an executable. Extension really didn't 
matter in that case.  It could have been anything. a .dat file, a .jpg etc. 
It's what's actually inside the file if you make a direct OS call that 
matters. You can save time by examining some of the files actual content 
to determine if you will have to do a full scan on it. If it starts with 
MZ for example, you should be scanning it - because that's a well known 
marker for an executable file. Just as an example. .com files were a 
little trickier because they didn't officially have a header.

Windows95 and above encouraged users to trust the file extension. That the 
extension was what the file really was. This resulted some in people being 
a little cheeky and having a bit of fun with it. such as openme.txt.exe. 
You'd see openme.txt and not the actual extension. So one double click for 
many users later and you might have had yourself a problem. In order to 
see the actual extension, you would have to turn hide extensions (the 
default setting) off.





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Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
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Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-11 23:38 +0000
  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 02:59 +0100
    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 03:23 +0000
      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 14:18 +0100
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:43 +0000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 22:20 +0100
    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-12 05:11 +0000
      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 06:29 +0000
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:46 +0000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 14:14 +0000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-13 02:06 +0000
            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 02:14 +0000
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 11:01 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 13:39 +0000
      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 14:20 +0100
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-15 20:50 +0000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:08 +0100
            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-16 05:40 +0000
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 11:05 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-17 01:33 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-20 22:23 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-20 14:59 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-20 23:54 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 00:44 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 14:33 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-22 00:16 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 00:20 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-11-22 14:17 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 14:39 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 20:08 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? tom nossen <news@nossen.org> - 2025-11-26 22:07 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-26 21:50 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? tom nossen <news@nossen.org> - 2025-11-27 12:18 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:26 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-22 18:56 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 09:06 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 12:10 -0500
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 09:29 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:15 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 15:35 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 00:21 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 05:20 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 09:26 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 18:27 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:23 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-02 20:13 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 08:39 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:42 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-03 22:03 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 08:21 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 18:05 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 22:47 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 22:47 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 00:16 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 14:41 -0800
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 03:05 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-20 23:01 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:58 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 05:21 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 19:01 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 23:23 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 23:41 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 00:39 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 15:45 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:59 +0100
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:35 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 15:12 +0000
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            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-16 05:40 +0000
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-16 15:13 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-20 22:23 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:05 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 15:35 +0000
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