Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke"

Subject	Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke"
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From	"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
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Date	2024-08-04 21:27 -0400
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On 8/4/24 6:07 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>>  I'm beginning to agree with 'D' ... that Linux has become
>>  too much of a 'business', that The Vision has been lost.
>>  Soon the Foundation will find a way to just sell it to M$
>>  and that's that.
> 
> I would imagine a first step is to limit participation based on
> ideological grouns. I could imagine license requirements, more rules
> etc, and attempts to bend the foundation to the will of one or two
> bigger manufacturers at the expense of the rest.

   Every subterfuge will be employed. M$ esp has LOTS
   of lawyers ....

> I think everyone here also remembers disasters such as the linux
> foundations goals during corona, as another example of it going to
> pieces.
> 
>>  The BSDs may be the last refuge - I think they're mostly
>>  tended by more 'academic' cultured people.
>>
>>  And if any young gurus have envisioned some new OS with
>>  much of the Linux goodness/solidity/simplicity - now's the
>>  time to really get into writing it.
> 
> I often wonder if a new genius will emerge for an OS reboot? Was Linus a
> one time thing, or would it be possible for it to happen again?

   There were many operating systems floating around in
   the 70s-90s. Most went nowhere - but that was not
   necessarily because they were bad, just that writers
   kind of wanted to concentrate efforts on the leading few.

   Ever tried BeOS ? You CAN get an x86 version that is
   still maintained and (slowly) growing. It was writ
   with the GUI fully in mind - rather than an add-on
   feature as with Win/Lin/(Apple). Has a kinda Win-98/2k
   feel. Firefox and some other useful stuff has been
   ported.

   OS9 ... which you can still buy ... was meant for small
   CPUs (6809) and microcontrollers. It has a "UNIX-ish",
   flavor, but smaller/faster/smarter. Could easily be
   upgraded to 32/64 bits. Used it a bit on a CoCo and
   it wasn't bad at all.
   https://www.microsys.de/en/products/software/os-9/

   BOS - 'Business (or "Boss") OS' was fairly popular, esp
   on the old Sage 68k boxes (always wanted one !).

   In any case, through the 70s-90s there were MANY
   experiments. Some were Unix-based, others were
   kinda off-the-wall. There are also 'retired' systems
   like VMS. This represents a pool of IDEAS today's
   wannabe gurus can tap into - what worked well, what
   didn't. They don't HAVE to start from scratch.

> Lacking that, I think perhaps that the people who do not like the
> direction of linux might rally behind one of the BSDs. The problem there
> is the HW support, but that could in theory be improved with more money
> and more funded developers.

   I don't think the BSDs get much money/helpers. That
   COULD change, esp if Linux decomposes like we kinda
   expect.

   But would the same chain of events happen again ?
   Once something becomes prominent, seems profitable,
   the same psychologies kick in. One of those
   "human things". With Linus as "king" the Linux
   kernel and ownership rules, we have remained
   fairly consistent to "The Vision" - but how many
   LIKE Linus are out there ???

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Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-07-27 01:33 -0400
  Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-07-27 01:46 -0400
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                Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-04 12:07 +0200
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                Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-04 19:21 +0100
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