Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ???

Subject	Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ???
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From	"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
Date	2022-10-16 21:51 -0400
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On 10/16/22 6:12 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 16/10/2022 03:34, 26C.Z968 wrote:
>> On 10/15/22 3:53 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2022 04:30, 26C.Z968 wrote:
>>>> there's no way to SEE/LOG that across all disks/volumes in
>>>>    anything approaching an efficient fashion
>>>
>>> Which is why no one has bothered to do it.
>>
>>    But they SHOULD, there needs to be a a point, a var,
>>    something, you can put a watch on and log all file
>>    activities.  There ARE uses ... but I'm not gonna tell  :-)
>>
>>    I wonder if Winders can do that ... ?
> Sorceror's apprentice. The log file logs all file access to...a log 
> file, including its won access to that log file...to file the logs on 
> file accesses...
> 
> Beware Recursion, my son...

   Heh heh ... indeed ! :-)

   But a little programming can spot that - and
   prevent it. I'm most interested in "users files",
   not system logs/caches/etc.

   The OTHER, horrible, way is to run rsync on
   EVERYTHING over and over, with the flags to
   document 'changed' and/or 'disappeared' files.
   That is NOT efficient. I use it for a species
   of double-mirrored backups where the 2nd set
   gets sent off for compression/encryption, but
   those only run every day or two or seven.

   I wonder if there's a general rule that can spot
   where infinite recursion is likely to happen ?
   Even worse, 'fractal/quantum recursion' where
   the very act of monitoring very slightly changes
   a lot of files/caches/etc, which, of course,
   must be documented, which causes even more
   small changes ..........

   At least Capt. Kirk found an easy way to hang
   up the overly-helpful androids. Interesting how
   a HUMAN, even a child, can usually spot infinite
   recursion happening or about to happen real
   quick, but it's absolute hell to get a computer
   to recognize such even in relatively narrow
   controlled circumstances. What's our trick ?
   How do we instinctively know that Zeno's Paradox
   is bogus even though the formal proofs seem to
   be very complex ?

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  Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2022-09-09 03:29 +0000
    Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-09 23:41 -0400
      Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2022-09-10 04:15 +0000
        Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-10 22:51 -0400
  Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2022-09-09 01:19 -0400
    Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-09 08:21 +0100
      Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-09 23:56 -0400
  Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-09 08:22 +0100
    Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-10 00:09 -0400
      Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-10 14:14 +0100
        Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-14 21:54 -0400
  Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2022-09-09 23:48 -0600
    Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2022-09-12 19:48 -0400
      Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-09-15 23:44 -0400
        Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-09-30 00:18 -0400
          Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202209.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2022-09-30 14:39 +0200
            Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-10-01 00:30 -0400
              Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2022-10-04 14:18 +0000
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2022-10-04 14:25 +0000
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-10-14 23:30 -0400
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-15 08:53 +0100
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-10-15 22:34 -0400
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-16 11:12 +0100
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-10-16 21:51 -0400
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2022-10-17 11:50 +0300
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-17 17:58 +0100
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-16 12:24 +0100
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-10-16 21:12 -0400
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2022-10-18 14:15 +0000
                Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-10-27 00:38 -0400
          Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2022-09-30 14:18 +0000
            Re: Noting EVERY File Write/Change/Delete in (near) Real Time ??? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-30 20:54 +0100
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