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Re: rPI Goes Public

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On 6/28/24 1:32 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:18:29 -0400, 26xh.0712 wrote:
> 
>>     My big gripe though isn't the PI per-se, but the Pi5 reliance on the
>>     not/never-ready-for-prime-time Deb WORM. Four of the five main things
>>     I do with PIs would NOT work with WORM. Went to BeeLink boxes and
>>     Manjaro instead.
> 
> I can't address Bookworm since I've studiously avoided moving my Debian
> box from Bullseye. I am running Ubuntu on a BeeLink SER 4 and am happy
> with it but that model is a AMD Ryzen 7 and not comparable to a Pi.
> 
> I probably will pick up a Pi 5 at some point primarily to work with the
> Pico W. I'm currently using MicroPython on the Pico and would install the
> C/C++ tool chain on the Pi.

   Moved away from Ubuntu some time back ... Canonical
   just started making it too weird - all sorts of utterly
   pointless changes from solid Deb that make life more
   and more complicated.

   But now 'solid Deb' seems to have been contaminated,
   LIKELY by hiring Canonical rejects. This is breaking
   more and more things which have worked perfectly for
   over a decade - and some resist fixing by any sane
   means and I'm too damned old to basically re-write
   half the system for funzies.

   So, for now, I'm into Arch derivatives. Manjaro is
   now very good but there are a couple others I'd
   consider. My one gripe with Manjaro is the update
   model ... which quickly gets to basically reloading
   the entire 2+gb system, rather like Tumbleweed,
   and that takes time and bites into the monthly
   data allotment.

   Pi5 won't work with Bullseye or any pre-WORM
   Deb derivative - you get a nasty boot message
   if you try. Waiting for Arch that will work
   right on a Pi5, MAYbe Fedora.

   Ah : "It is possible to get Arch Linux ARM up
   and running on a Raspberry Pi 5 by removing
   U-Boot and replacing the mainline kernel with
   a directly booting kernel from the Raspberry
   Pi foundation"

   Um ... no ... what an ugly hack ... just won't
   buy another Pi5 anytime soon.

   Clearly boards like BeeLink and BMax fit into a
   different niche from Pi's - for some apps you
   WANT all those I/O pins and there's no substitute.
   However I had been using Pi's for apps that did
   not need those pins. Pi5/WORM has forced me to
   a fork in the road, Pi doesn't do it all anymore.

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  Re: rPI Goes Public Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-12 07:18 +0100
    Re: rPI Goes Public Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-12 08:26 +0100
  Re: rPI Goes Public Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-12 07:19 +0000
  Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-12 08:31 +0100
    Re: rPI Goes Public Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-12 07:51 +0000
      Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-12 12:14 +0100
        Re: rPI Goes Public "26xh.0717" <26xh.0718@e6t4y.net> - 2024-06-14 09:53 -0400
    Re: rPI Goes Public Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:39 +0100
      Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-13 20:21 +0100
        Re: rPI Goes Public Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-14 00:21 +0000
          Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-14 08:46 +0100
            Re: rPI Goes Public Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-14 08:21 +0000
            Re: rPI Goes Public Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-14 09:44 +0100
              Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-15 00:16 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-15 10:14 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-06-16 09:56 +1000
                Re: rPI Goes Public Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-17 07:36 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public "26xh.0712" <26xh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-06-28 00:18 -0400
                Re: rPI Goes Public rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-06-28 17:32 +0000
                Re: rPI Goes Public Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-06-28 10:48 -0700
                Re: rPI Goes Public rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-06-28 17:56 +0000
                Only you have the power (Was: rPI Goes Public) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-06-28 18:00 +0000
                Re: Only you have the power (Was: rPI Goes Public) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-06-29 07:24 +0000
                Re: Only you have the power (Was: rPI Goes Public) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-06-29 12:30 +0000
                Re: rPI Goes Public Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-28 21:04 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-29 10:25 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-06-29 12:35 +0000
                Re: rPI Goes Public rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-06-29 17:48 +0000
                Re: rPI Goes Public The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-29 10:21 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-01 07:10 -0400
                Re: rPI Goes Public Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-06-28 13:35 -0700
                Re: rPI Goes Public "26xh.0712" <26xh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-06-29 01:02 -0400
                Re: rPI Goes Public rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-06-29 07:11 +0000
                Re: rPI Goes Public D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-06-29 22:11 +0200
                Re: rPI Goes Public "26xh.0712" <26xh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-07-02 03:00 -0400
                Re: rPI Goes Public D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-02 11:47 +0200
                Re: rPI Goes Public "26xh.0712" <26xh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-07-02 02:55 -0400
                Re: rPI Goes Public The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-29 10:20 +0100
                Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-17 00:35 +0100
        Re: rPI Goes Public Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-14 09:34 +0100
          Re: rPI Goes Public Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-06-15 00:15 +0100

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