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Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord?

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In article <slrnj1b7o9.a16.unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca>,
unruh  <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> wrote:

>There has been an ongoing, totally childish battle between Schilling and
>the distros (led by Debian). The debian people do not like Schilling (he
>can be stubborn and ascerbic, but writes good code) and are using what
>they claim (probably wrongly) are problems with incompatibility with the
>CDDL and GPL (ignoring the huge incompatibilities between GPL2 and 3) 

There has been a good relationship with Debian until early Spring 2004 when a 
new packetizer was selected for cdrtools after the old one did finish his 
university career. Before, Debian even helped to find solutions for Linux
distros like SuSe that was the first Linux distro that intentionally shipped 
broken own variants from cdrtools.

The new packetizer appeared to be extremely lazy and after many bug reports 
against cdrtools appeared in the Debian Bug tracking system, he did not switch 
to never versions of the source (that had these bugs fixed since a long time 
already), but he introduced own new bugs. In May 2004, he asked me to 
incormorate a patch to "support UTF-8" with mkisofs. This patch however did 
not support UTF-8 but rather caused tons of compiler warnings, so I could not
include it.

Since then this person (Eduard Bloch) started a diffamation and insulting 
campaign against me. 

Every bigger community has the chance to have black sheeps amongst their rows 
and at that point Debian could not be blamed for the attacks from Bloch.
In late 2004 Debian devided to support Bloch instead of supporting their users.
This is when Debian switched to the dark side ot the source.

A few months later (in April 2005), Debian started to claim cdrecord has a 
license problem bnecause parts of cdrecord are supposed to be no longer under
GPL. Well at that time 100% od cdrecord was GPL, do Debian was obviously 
trying to claim a license problem in order to hide their social problem.

As nobody (even the FSF) did help with this anti social campaign, I decided 
that the GPL cannot be seen as a license of choice any more and switched to 
the CDDL on May 15 2006. In Summer 2005 Debian continued to claimthat there is 
a supposed GPL problem with cdrecord even though not s single line of code from 
cdrecord was under GPL anymore.

Cdrtools (being a collection of several independent works) does not mix CDDL
and GPL in a single work and thus has no problems from the license 
incompatibilities.  This has been confirmed by many lawyers, including the Sun 
legal department, the Oracle legal department (later under differen rules) and 
Eben Moglen.


>to not use cdrecord, but rather a bastardised version of an ancient (7
>year old) release of cdrecord. Schilling refuses to release cdrecord
>under the GPL to mollify them. And so the impass continues. A couple of
>years ago, some of the debian people said they would start including
>cdrecord (not their bastardized wodim) in the release, but it never
>happened. 

Correct, on March 6 2009, Simon Phipps (at that time Sun OSS evangelist now 
member of the board of directors in opensource.org) repeated a compromise that 
I made in autumn 2008 already (ship everything linked dynamically) and Debian 
agreed to include cdrtools as soon as possible (they mentioned 6 weeks at that
time). Nothing happeded however, so Debian can also be seen as implausible.



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Hey, what happened to cdrecord? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2011-07-07 04:20 -0700
  Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-07-07 11:56 +0000
    Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-07-07 10:01 -0500
    Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? unruh <unruh@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca> - 2011-07-07 18:51 +0000
      Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-07-07 15:09 -0500
      Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? Feranija <feranija@net...> - 2011-07-07 16:42 -0700
    Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) - 2011-07-10 11:03 +0000
  Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2011-07-08 03:21 -0400
    Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> - 2011-07-08 04:35 -0700
  Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) - 2011-07-10 10:36 +0000
  Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2011-07-14 13:01 -0800
    Re: Hey, what happened to cdrecord? js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) - 2011-07-16 20:03 +0000

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