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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?

From D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
Date 2024-12-30 12:51 +0100
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 29/12/2024 11:02, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> On 28/12/2024 11:17, D wrote:
>
>>> 
>>> Its a question of the least worst remedies. Everything has a side effect. 
>>> I tried beta blockers but felt like a zombie.
>> 
>> Sometimes I get the feeling that doctors are still very close to medieval 
>> alchemists and have no clue what's going on. I have a very mild, but 
>> annoying skin desease that came from nowhere. Since it is very mild, and 
>> only flares up about once a month I never bothered to do anything about it. 
>> But I had some extra time and went to a doctor, he called in 2 others 
>> doctors, and they were looking at it for 20 minutes discussing, and in the 
>> end admitted they had no idea what it is and gave me some creams.
>> 
> I had the same. It turned out that I had been using a lot of bleach to clean 
> my house after I got my ex out of it.  and it affected my skin.

It is very complicated. I try to think about what I have done differently 
the past 5 years or so, in order for that stuff to start, and I have no 
idea. It feels as if it could be a combination of many, many small things. 
Stress, age, dietary changes, maybe an infection or two. I have no idea.

>> The creams gave me 2 small permanent scars, that otherwise would have 
>> disappeared (thank you Mr. Doctor!). They told me to come back and they 
>> would look some more. ;)
>> 
>> So I wonder if I should do it, or if they will manage to make it worse the 
>> second time as well? On the other hand, I am curious about what it is, and 
>> it would be nice to know.
>> 
> If it doesn't kill you no one has studied it.

This is the truth! If I was a doctor I would prioritize according to how 
many die and how much profit there is in it. I imagine that big pharma 
perhaps might reverse the order. ;)

> Medicine is tampering with a massively complex dynamic system, and only by 
> trial and error does it become appernet what works and what does not.

I am very fascinated by it. It makes the complexity of IT systems feel 
like a childrens toy. If my parents would have been doctors I always 
thought that there would have been a big change that I would have ended up 
as a doctor as well. But that's what you get for having a social scientist 
as father... you end up in IT. ;)

>>> Cancer is an utter bitch. I am on my second now, having fully survived the
>> 
>> This is the truth!
>> 
>>> first,  but it is ultimately incurable, just very slow developing, so its 
>>> likely something else will kill me first.
>> 
>> My grandmother had some form of slow acting blood cancer I think. In the 
>> end I think she died of old age at 95.
>> 
> Yep. That's the one. Had it at least ten years with no real effect.

Good to hear that it isn't anything worse! =)

>>> 
>>> The cancer was never present in the bowel to any high degree, just 
>>> mounting back pain and lymph node lumps a few weeks before the end.
>> 
>> Horrible! =(
>> 
>>> Some cancers are easy.. Some are harder and some are impossible.
>>> GPs are not equipped for this. My GP threw me straight at oncology to 
>>> check out something suspicious. She is rather conscientious.
>> 
>> My mothers doctor told me that cancer is not one disease, it's 100s of 
>> different ones and apparently that is why it is so difficult to cure it. 
>> Research focuses on the most common ones, and I imagine there is very 
>> little money in the least common ones.
>
> All it really is, is abnormal genetics taking hold. A mutation appears, 
> survives and then prospers.
>
> It is pure luck of the draw, mostly.
>
> And its hard to call e.g. heart disease a disease, since there is no active 
> agency causing it.
>
> It's an effect of genetics and lifestyle choices and a huge slice of luck.

I read that the founder of spotify has started a health care company 
called Neko. The idea is that you step into a techno-shower-cabinet that 
picks up 100s of measurements from the most common such as weight and 
blook pressure, to extremely occult ones. And the idea is that a computer 
will then analyze it and find correlations to try and catch most desease 
early.

A doctor criticized it for being unreliable, and saying that you'll always 
get some kind of alarm or trigger, and that having loads of these cabinets 
will overflow the healthcare system by anxious millionaires and 
billionaires for what in the end turned out to be nothing.

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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-21 12:07 +0100
  Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 21:04 +0000
    Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-22 11:55 +0100
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            Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-23 12:26 +0100
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-23 21:13 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 02:08 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-27 14:33 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-27 18:41 +0000
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-24 22:52 +0100
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-25 12:34 +0100
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-30 13:04 +0100
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-30 20:30 +0000
                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-31 12:45 +0100
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-28 10:46 +0000
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:11 +0000
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