Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement
Date	2011-07-11 07:34 -0500
Organization	Dancing Horse Hill
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AD writes:
> uucp is unix to unix copy. It was done over cu, precisely.

Uucp is done over whatever channel uucico uses.  In the 80s that was
usually dialup, but not always: large organizations had wideband links.
It works fine over TCP.  From the man page:

DESCRIPTION
       The  uucp  command  copies  files between systems.
       ...
       The copy does not take place immediately, but is queued up for
       the uucico (8) daemon; the daemon is started immediately unless
       the -r or --nouucico switch is given.  In any case, the next time
       the remote system is called the file(s) will be copied.

From the uucico man page:

DESCRIPTION
       The uucico daemon processes file transfer requests queued by uucp
       (1) and uux (1).  It is started when uucp or uux is run (unless
       they are given the -r option).  It is also typically started
       periodically using entries in the crontab table(s).

Cu is "call unix".  It's a terminal program.  From the man page:

DESCRIPTION 
       The cu command is used to call up another system and act as a
       dial in terminal.  It can also do simple file transfers with no
       error checking.

Usenet used uucp to move files between systems and uux to get the
receiving system to send files on to the next system.  It handled both
news and mail.  Pathalias along with the MAPS project made it
unnecessary to know the complete path to the destination of a message.
-- 
John Hasler ihnp4!stolaf!bungia!foundln!john 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-06-28 07:49 -0700
  Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-06-28 16:00 +0100
    Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-07-05 08:38 -0700
      Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-05 20:10 +0100
        Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk> - 2011-07-06 12:24 +0200
          Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-06 12:14 +0100
            Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk> - 2011-07-06 14:20 +0200
              Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2011-07-06 08:15 -0500
                Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-06 14:26 +0100
      Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-07-05 18:33 +0100
      Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-07-06 04:31 -0700
        Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk> - 2011-07-06 15:58 +0200
        Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2011-07-06 13:07 -0500
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            Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-07-07 13:41 +0100
              Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at> - 2011-07-07 23:12 +0200
                Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-07-07 22:35 +0100
                Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at> - 2011-07-08 13:05 +0200
                Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 00:18 -0700
                Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2011-07-11 07:34 -0500
  Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-06-28 17:09 +0000
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  Re: Usenet salvation through p2p -> news server tree delivery scheme retirement Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2011-06-30 09:47 +0100

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