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Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code

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Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:
> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 21:52:08 -0500
>>c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> I suspect that stuff like programs may leave waking consciousness,
>>> but somewhere deep down keep some little processes running. Then,
>>> when you go back to it after awhile, new and better approaches and
>>> tweaks seem to come easily.
>>
>>Absolutely. Our lead developer at $EMPLOYER has often related stories
>>of working on a problem for hours or days, leaving off and going to
>>bed, and waking up the next morning with the answer waiting for him.
> 
> That often happens, yes. But I also have the situation when I go to
> bed with an open issue that it takes me too long to get to sleep
> because I keep pondering about the issue.

I usually find the obvious answer while lying in bed, and go to
sleep entirely satisfied. Then after working on it the next day I
discover that in my tiredness I'd just forgotten most of the
constraints that made the problem difficult in the first place.
Good for sleep, bad for problem solving (especially if I don't
remember in the morning either and start extensively redesigning
things).

> It also helps to explain the problem so someone. MIT used to have a
> teddy bear in next to the door to the user helldesk, people had to
> explain their problem to the bear before being allowed in. People tell
> that many people stopped right in their explanation and went back to
> their console.

Most times I go to start a technical topic on Usenet I realise the
answer by the time I've got to the end of writing it and just keep
it as a private note.

> In the last months I made the experience that is also helps to explain
> the issue to an LLM.

Well I guess that's the modern version of what I do.

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The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-24 21:55 -0500
  Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-25 11:07 +0000
    Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-25 17:14 +0000
      Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-25 21:52 -0500
        Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 08:18 -0800
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-26 13:04 -0500
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-27 01:26 +0000
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-27 08:58 +0100
            Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-29 08:26 +1000
              Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-28 23:10 -0500
        Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-31 10:26 +0000
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-31 19:39 +0000
            Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-31 23:57 -0500
      Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-26 07:09 -0500
        Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-27 01:26 +0000
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-27 01:23 -0500
            Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-27 10:24 +0000
      Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-31 10:16 +0000
        Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-01 03:04 +0000
        Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-02-02 08:44 -0800
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-02 21:27 +0000
            Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-02 21:06 -0500
    Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-01-25 17:53 +0000
      Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-25 21:52 -0500
    Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-25 19:16 +0000
      Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-25 21:58 -0500
        Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-26 04:33 +0000
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-26 04:46 +0000
            Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-26 01:05 -0500
            Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-27 01:26 +0000
              Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-27 05:13 +0000
          Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-26 00:44 -0500
      Re: The Value of a 2nd Look At Code Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-26 07:11 -0500

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