Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing

From	D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing
Date	2025-01-18 11:45 +0100
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2025, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2025, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> ARM SoCs for "ultra-low power" exist for things like smart watches,
>>> laptop makers just don't use them. Note that the big screen on a
>>> laptop is a major power draw too, although a very niche product
>>> using a large eInk display with some of the new partial-update and
>>> colour features might be useful for some people.
>>
>> Very interesting. Thank you for the information. As for eInk I haven't
>> (yet) seen one that would be able to keep up with videos. If such a thing
>> exists, it would be awesome!
>
> No way with videos, but then I very rarely view them on a laptop
> anyway, so I'm more interested in things like reading/writing to
> Usenet. I gather the writing part has previously been shaky because
> eInk displays update slower than people type, but new ones can
> update one section of the display faster than refreshing the whole
> display, so you might be able to practically update around the
> cursor posiiton without such excessive lag.
>
>> When I buy laptops I always try to get the lowest resolution I can, as
>> well as to avoid touch screen, in order to increase the battery life.
>
> I'd have thought that most power is used to generate the light
> (from an OLED display or LCD backlight), so screen size would be
> more related to power usage than resolution.

My thinking was more pixels to update, more loads on the computer, coupled 
with some power to handle the touch aspect as well. But you are probably 
right. As for screen size, my favourite form factor is 11.6" which does 
not exist any longer. =( Only 13.3 inch or 14 now for general use laptops.

>>> Finding the minimum-power ARM chip able to run Linux would be an
>>> interesting exercise. I gather Linux requires a minimum set of ARM
>>> extensions, as well as an MMU, which may exclude many of the SoC
>>> options intended for embedded applications. Software is as much of
>>> the problem as hardware.
>>
>> I wonder if linux + modern work such as spreadsheets and audio/video calls
>> would be possible on those minimum-power ARM chips or if they are too
>> slow?
>
> Well many are faster than the Pentium 1 PC I'm posting from now.
> Clock speeds of 250MHz for example, while using a fraction of the
> power from something like a Raspberry Pi Zero. This PC can do
> spreadsheets and probably low-fi audio calls, but not video.
>
> This is my thinking in saying the inability to use these
> ultra-low-power SoC chips for more general computing is a software
> problem. Unlike microcontrollers of old, these ARM-based things are
> matching and exceeding the specs of this PC that I'm using. The
> difference is that you can build most Linux software to run on a
> Pentium 1 with one compiler argument, but it appears to be
> difficult to build for these chips, and existing work is geared
> towards running a custom, or at least customised, programs.
>
> After thirty years minimum-power processors seem to have caught up
> with the minimum level of processing speed that I regularly find
> use for. Only by the fact that the architecture is wrong for
> existing software does that preclude me taking advantage of this
> advancement, because I don't want to try and rewrite tons of common
> x86 software to run on these embedded architectures.
>
> RAM is also a limitation, and since it's locked inside these SoCs
> you can't expand it. Again projects like Contiki OS chew up vastly
> less RAM than Linux while still offering networked applications and
> a graphical environment (in the old version).
>
>

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                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-29 04:23 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-29 06:02 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-28 20:28 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:42 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-29 07:22 +1000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-29 15:14 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 23:58 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-29 15:19 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-28 16:20 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-29 15:12 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 01:15 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-30 05:43 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 01:01 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 10:37 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 10:01 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 05:08 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:43 +0100
                Turn your Radio On Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-30 14:05 +0000
                Re: Turn your Radio On D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:49 +0100
                Re: Turn your Radio On rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-30 19:35 +0000
                Re: Turn your Radio On D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 22:15 +0100
                Re: Turn your Radio On rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 01:18 +0000
                Re: Turn your Radio On D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:47 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 17:24 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-30 19:43 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 22:16 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 22:07 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 01:43 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 21:24 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:26 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:49 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 19:36 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:49 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:48 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 10:33 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 09:33 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 17:31 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-30 19:45 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-30 20:13 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 20:39 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 21:25 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 21:19 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-30 22:54 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 20:43 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:22 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-31 08:08 +1000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 01:35 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-31 04:49 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 00:44 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:49 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 02:09 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-31 10:33 +0000
                Turn Your Radio On ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-31 16:48 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 19:30 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-31 10:29 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:44 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-31 18:21 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-31 10:24 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:09 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:46 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 17:45 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 21:55 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:27 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:26 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:00 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:01 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:10 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:29 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:22 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:30 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:22 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:37 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:29 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:00 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:25 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:45 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 12:52 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 17:30 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:27 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:05 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:41 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 17:44 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 20:15 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:26 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 21:40 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 01:28 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 03:49 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:16 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:24 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:46 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:44 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:40 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:09 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:21 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:39 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:48 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 13:12 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 17:32 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:12 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:01 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 20:30 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:28 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 19:45 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-28 05:38 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-28 03:13 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:25 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-28 20:01 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 22:00 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:09 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:00 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:38 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:53 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:04 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:19 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:29 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:12 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:51 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-25 20:01 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:41 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:53 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:38 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:12 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:22 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:42 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:40 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 07:48 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 10:34 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 20:11 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 22:31 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 22:55 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 00:05 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 21:34 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:53 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:34 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:02 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 20:08 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:55 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-21 18:22 -0500
              Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:20 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:33 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-18 07:45 +1000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:45 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:26 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:42 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 19:03 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 23:08 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 18:52 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-20 09:08 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 23:29 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 20:26 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 10:36 +0100
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 18:44 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 08:14 -0800
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-20 16:39 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 09:00 -0800
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 13:56 -0500
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 21:57 +0100
              Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:19 +0000
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 08:04 -0800
                Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:12 +0000
            Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 00:28 -0500
              Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:48 +0100

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