Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro

From	Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro
Date	2025-12-19 18:05 +0000
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On 2025-12-19, candycanearter07 wrote:

> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 01:41 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On 13 Dec 2025 14:08:25 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> Le 13-12-2025, bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> This isn't an uncommon thing for FOSS developers once they're depended
>>>> on, despite the clear disclaimers that they provide zero warranty.
>>> 
>>> That disclaimer isn't limited to FOSS. Last time I checked Microsoft
>>> licence, I saw the same guaranty. But if big companies know they can't
>>> sue Microsoft, they believe that guaranty is only there to protect big
>>> companies, not FOSS developers.
>>
>> There is this irony in an excuse often put forward by BigCorps™, as to why 
>> they prefer to pay lots of money to proprietary companies like Microsoft, 
>> instead of using Free software and managing their own support thereof: the 
>> “one throat to choke” excuse. That is, they claim that, in the event of 
>> problems with the software, they can go back to the owning vendor to get 
>> it sorted out, there should be no pointing of fingers at others.
>>
>> Except it doesn’t work in practice, does it? When was the last time a 
>> company or Microsoft (or Oracle, or whoever) was successfully sued over 
>> the (lack of) quality of its software?
>
>
> It also ends up affecting everyone when something goes wrong, which is
> super annoying cough cloudflare

Cloudflare is on a different level (or perhaps not... halloween
documents and the ACPI e-mail) - they possibly market a service without
making it very clear it's basically whitelisting only a few browsers,
besides requiring JS on these browsers. Especially given that, in the
past, their browser checks supported more browsers and had more
fallbacks, but now it's all on top of "Turnstile" and that caters only
for specific browsers, and some of their customers might have just
continued without enough notice of these differences? Or did Cloudflare
really say it out loud that the new version would only allow using
select browsers?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 03:42 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 20:47 -0800
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-12 21:50 +0000
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 02:02 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-13 10:01 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:14 +0100
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 20:41 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 16:00 -0800
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 03:11 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:02 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:01 +0000
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        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-11 18:25 +0000
  Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:26 +0100
  Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-12 06:37 +1000
    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-12 05:04 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-13 09:11 -0600
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2025-12-13 15:53 +0000
    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 01:21 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 12:16 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-17 07:37 +1000
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:53 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-18 06:54 +1000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 23:43 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 01:26 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-24 09:04 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:07 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-19 08:28 +1000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-19 08:24 +1000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 01:08 +0000
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:20 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:57 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 14:34 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 20:23 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 23:41 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 01:20 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:02 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-20 07:17 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:01 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:59 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-18 06:43 +1000
  Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-11 16:21 -0600
    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-12 05:01 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 08:43 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-12 14:30 -0600
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:16 +0100
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:03 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:03 +0100
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 03:18 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 20:36 -0800
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-12-14 16:51 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-14 11:36 -0800
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:56 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:07 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-16 07:40 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:33 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:42 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:05 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:46 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:05 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:43 +0000
  Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-12 15:48 -0600
    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:46 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:26 +0100
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-13 07:38 -0600
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:08 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:41 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 08:01 -0800
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 14:50 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 18:05 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-12-13 14:56 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 15:52 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 18:00 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:37 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:10 +0100
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 12:03 +0000
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-14 10:41 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-14 06:23 -0600
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:27 +0100
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-14 18:26 +0000
    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-13 09:33 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 10:54 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:28 +0100
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:09 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:11 +0100
  Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 13:56 +0000
    Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-14 10:52 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-14 06:25 -0600
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 13:50 +0000
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 00:18 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 10:40 -0600
            Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 21:12 +0000
              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 15:41 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:02 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 17:09 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:23 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 20:58 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-16 11:25 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-16 07:35 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-17 08:11 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 14:37 +0000
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-17 09:02 -0600
                Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-18 01:39 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:27 +0000
      Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:11 +0000
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 20:51 +0000
        Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:34 +0000
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              Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:27 +0000
          Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:30 +0000
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