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Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered
Date 2025-09-07 13:02 +0200
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On 2025-09-07 08:35, Marc Haber wrote:
> Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Sep 2025 11:59:55 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> At CERN, the control machines for the particle accelerators have
>>> processors from 2008 and cannot be easily replaced since those
>>> machines are full of PCI(not e) cards and modern boxes simply don't
>>> have that number of slots any more. So you'd need to double the
>>> amount of machines to upgrade that, but those racks are INSIDE the
>>> tunnel in literal niches where there is no more room.
>>
>> It seems to me those cards could be replaced with new redesigned ones
>> while they’re at it, packing a lot more circuitry into each chip, and
>> therefore a lot more functionality into each card, thereby needing
>> fewer cards, and making them PCI-E into the bargain.
> 
> they chose not to do that.

There is not much you can do with a card.

I worked with data acquisition cards. Say you have 8 analog inputs, 8 
analog outputs, 16 digital inputs, 16 digital outputs; then you have to 
place the plugs on the sides for all those. They take space. You can not 
add many i/o on the edge of the card, they don't fit.

Instead, depending on the needed speed, you could use some external bus 
and place the devices on the bus. Maybe USB, but there are industrial 
buses. One requirement, though, is that applications want to sync all 
i/o. Ie, take a reading of all the sensors at the same millisecond.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-09-03 11:32 +0000
  Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:09 +0100
  Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:16 -0400
    Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:26 +0100
      Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:51 -0400
        Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:20 +0100
        Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 20:07 +0000
      Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 19:54 +0000
        Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:28 +0100
      Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 04:56 +0000
        Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-05 08:57 +0200
          Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 08:23 +0100
            Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 04:36 -0400
              Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-05 11:59 +0200
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-09-06 12:49 +0200
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-06 13:51 +0200
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-06 22:40 +0000
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-07 08:35 +0200
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-07 13:02 +0200
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-07 15:57 +0200
                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-07 21:30 +0000
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                Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 04:15 -0400
    Re: Linux 32 bit support days are numbered rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 19:43 +0000
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