Re: new WD passport filesystem?

From	Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject	Re: new WD passport filesystem?
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Date	2011-07-22 12:28 -0400
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Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> writes:

> Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> writes:
>
>> I've been using various WD Passport external USB drives over the years
>> with luck and so recently purchased a 1 Tb USB 3.0 drive (I understand
>> that the debian Squeeze kernel supports USB 3). I'm having trouble
>> mounting it. I had presumed it came formatted as VFAT16, but:

>>   $ ls /dev | grep sdb1
>>   sdb1
>>
>>   $ dmesg
>>   ...
>>   ... sd 50:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953458176 512-byte logical 
>>                    blocks: (1.00 TB/931 GiB)
>>   ... sd 50:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>>   ... sd 50:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
>>   ...
>>   ... sdb: sdb1
>>   ... sd 50:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
>>   ... sd 50:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
>>   ... FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, 
>>            filesystem will be case sensitive!
>>   ... FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
>>   ... VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1.
>>   ... FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset...
>>   ... FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
>>   ... VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1.
>>   ... HPFS: Bad magic ... probably not HPFS
>>   ... HPFS: Bad magic ... probably not HPFS
>>
>> So is it HPFS or not? If it is, why the FAT error messages? If it is
>> not, why did fdisk tell a lie? Has hpfs/ntfs become the default 
>> file system on devices these days?
>
> It is probably NTFS.  fdisk only reports the partition identifier, which
> is the same for HPFS and NTFS; it does not tell you what the actual
> formatting is.  What you find on a newly bought disk is up the vendor.
> The FAT error messages indicate something tried to mount it with that
> and failed.

Thanks for the clarification. But meanwhile I did manage to mount the
disk successfully with mount -t hpfs. For this new drive, WD decided to
make its file system HPFS/NTFS instead of VFAT as in the past, which
strikes me as a smart move, although perhaps it looses the
cross-platform advantage of FAT. I wonder if this is a trend.

Haines Brown

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new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-22 11:31 -0400
  Re: new WD passport filesystem? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-07-22 11:37 -0400
  Re: new WD passport filesystem? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-07-22 16:46 +0100
    Re: new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-22 12:28 -0400
      Re: new WD passport filesystem? "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor.Hemsley@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> - 2011-07-22 17:43 -0500
        Re: new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-22 21:27 -0400
  Re: new WD passport filesystem? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-07-22 15:50 +0000
    Re: new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-22 12:37 -0400
      Re: new WD passport filesystem? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-07-22 17:36 +0000
      Re: new WD passport filesystem? Bill Marcum <bill@lat.localnet> - 2011-07-22 14:03 -0400
      Re: new WD passport filesystem? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-07-22 19:42 +0100
        Re: new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-22 21:56 -0400
          Re: new WD passport filesystem? felmon <nemo@nowhere.INVALID> - 2011-07-22 22:50 -0500
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              Re: new WD passport filesystem? felmon <nemo@nowhere.INVALID> - 2011-07-23 13:32 -0500
                Re: new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-24 08:28 -0400
                Re: new WD passport filesystem? scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2011-07-26 16:08 +0000
                Re: new WD passport filesystem? Haines Brown <haines@HistoricalMaterialism.info> - 2011-07-27 06:26 -0400
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