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| Started by | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| First post | 2017-04-28 23:21 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-04-29 23:55 +0000 |
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Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-28 23:21 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:05 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 09:22 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:49 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:13 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 15:43 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:57 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:18 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-29 11:14 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:39 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 10:55 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-29 15:06 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 14:28 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 20:04 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 15:55 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 11:04 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 17:03 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 12:08 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 17:45 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 21:50 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 10:53 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-29 15:17 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 20:10 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 20:34 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 20:45 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 21:01 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 22:09 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:16 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:47 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 18:53 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:58 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 19:03 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 01:20 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 20:35 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 02:08 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 21:22 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 03:53 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-30 00:09 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-30 08:08 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:02 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-30 12:08 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:02 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:03 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 16:29 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 10:31 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:00 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-05-02 05:45 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 10:16 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 19:03 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-05-02 18:21 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 23:51 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-05-03 08:49 +0200
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 22:21 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 18:42 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 17:10 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 14:35 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 15:31 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 16:25 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 09:48 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 17:23 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:32 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 17:47 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:58 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:57 -0700
Re: My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 21:23 +0000
Re: My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 14:32 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 14:47 -0700
The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 15:36 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 15:42 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 14:47 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 22:06 +0000
The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 15:23 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 22:43 +0000
$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 15:56 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 23:03 +0000
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-05-07 19:12 -0400
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:03 -0700
$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 20:54 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:58 -0700
gShift Middle(Wheel)Click answers the phone no matter if the monitor is Off|On. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 21:27 -0700
Re: gShift Middle(Wheel)Click answers the phone no matter if the monitor is Off|On. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 10:20 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 22:25 +0000
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 15:51 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? John Smith <mynameiscommon@wingo3.org> - 2017-05-08 23:27 +0000
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 17:23 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-05-08 08:25 -0400
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-08 18:28 -0400
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 15:59 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-07 18:16 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:26 -0700
Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 21:01 -0700
Re: Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 21:15 -0700
Re: Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy. John Smith <mynameiscommon@wingo3.org> - 2017-05-09 03:52 +0000
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 01:52 +0000
My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 21:14 -0700
Re: My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 21:21 -0700
Re: My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-08 18:32 -0400
The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-08 22:48 -0700
Re: The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 04:33 -0400
Re: The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:34 +0000
Games are more enjoyable when you don't need a keyboard|controller. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-09 14:10 -0700
CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-09 14:27 -0700
Re: CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-09 14:35 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-07 18:14 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-07 18:10 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-05-08 08:27 -0400
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-08 10:02 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-08 18:23 -0400
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-05-08 19:22 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:52 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:55 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 22:13 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:18 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:01 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-05-01 10:31 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:52 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 09:51 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-30 07:40 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 14:38 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-30 18:38 +0200
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 09:53 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-30 13:58 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:16 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:23 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-05-01 18:14 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 15:40 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 21:48 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 22:25 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 17:48 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:22 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 18:32 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:55 +0000
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2017-05-09 14:10 -0700 |
| Subject | Games are more enjoyable when you don't need a keyboard|controller. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.10P.Seattle.2017> |
| In reply to | #414106 |
You ( Michael Moroney ) replied ( to me ): > > Now, the ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons > > are shown in the upper right corner of: > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT > > It really does look like a 2 button mouse > with a right button added as an afterthought. No, it's not, I assure you. I pick up the mouse and move it 4K pixels, even as my Wrist/Palm rests on the mouse pad, because: My Thumb holds the left side of the mouse, brushing the pad. My Pinky holds the right side of the mouse, brushing the pad. My Ring Finger rests on the (BigAss) gShfit button. I use _all of the 39 buttons, in _many apps, everyday, all day; not one button is wasted. It's Muscle Memory now. I'm a programmer but gamers enjoy it too; games are more enjoyable when you don't need a keyboard|controller. Ideally, you'd map the game's keys to the ones on the mouse. > Does it even have Linux drivers or is it a Windows gamers only thing > that looks like a generic mouse to Linux ? The g600 mouse is Windows only, no Mac or Linux drivers. I use complex Lua scripts to do things Mac/Linux hasn't imagined; to wit: ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. gShift Middle(Wheel)Click to answer the phone. gShift RightClick to inspect an HTML element in the DOM editor. gShift LeftClick to move a post to the Clipboard ( from VisualStudio2017 ).
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2017-05-09 14:27 -0700 |
| Subject | CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.27P.Seattle.2017> |
| In reply to | #414147 |
Make that: CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-09 14:35 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. |
| Message-ID | <D537843C.A4444%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #414150 |
On 5/9/17, 2:27 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@May.9--2.27P.Seattle.2017, "<Jeff-Relf.Me @.>" <> wrote: > Make that: > > CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. I can see the appeal of that. Sure. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-07 18:14 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. |
| Message-ID | <Uc2dncD_s8bwN5LEnZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #413602 |
On 2017-05-07, Jeff-Relf.Me @. <Jeff-Relf.Me@> wrote: >> > The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel: >> > >> > Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button. >> > Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way ) >> > Ring Finder on RightClick ( again, if you set it that way ). >> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG >> >> Really? Where is the middle button? One of those chicklet >> buttons? Sorry, that's a FAIL. > > There's 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. > My thumb and pinky are on the mouse pad. > It super easy to set them to do whatever, and/or nothing. > > Look at my photo ( Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG ) and/or see: > https://assets.logitech.com/assets/47823/2/g600-gaming-mouse-images.png Oh this is a better photo. Yours is a lot like the 3D connexion. It's easy to miss that it has three buttons since they are part of the overall shape. I didn't notice it. Still, I don't like all those other buttons being there. Ideally I'd like it just to be three buttons on the surface and the wheel and nothing else if possible. The 3D connexion is closer to that than yours. Where my thumb goes, is almost nothing. Just two more buttons, but since the side is so large I never accidentally hit those side buttons. If I press them at all it's because I intended to, which I can tell you was not the case until this mouse came along. On all the smaller mice I had, I would accidentally hit those side buttons so often I'd want to throw the mouse out a window. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-07 18:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. |
| Message-ID | <Uc2dncH_s8bBNJLEnZ2dnUU7-V3NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #413593 |
On 2017-05-07, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >> The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel: >> >> Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button. >> Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way ) >> Ring Finder on RighClick ( again, if you set it that way ). > > Really? Where is the middle button? One of those chicklet > buttons? Sorry, that's a FAIL. Absolutely a fail for what I would want. The three main buttons need to be first-class citizens on the mouse. http://imgur.com/CjNWK5O This is pretty much the original way I had it back in the late 80's starting with the Amiga. It would be another ten years or more and until around 1999 that I would have something like again with Sun Microsystems. http://imgur.com/fktHKr4 And then several years ago I found the IBM mouse pictures here in the middle. But having got used to the wheel I wasn't ready to give that up for the middle button even though this was one of the only mice I'd found in years to be close to what I once had. The same image with the 3D Connexion mouse on the left shows all three buttons are very much equals even though there is indeed a wheel. First mouse I've had in almost 20 years that brings me back to the time when we had GREAT mice and not this crap we have now. But it's not just the mouse. I had not used an X Window system until a little less that four years ago. The focus functions put the whole thing back into perspective. There was a feel to the desktop that I haven't felt since the 90s. Hard to get back to where it was since the UI itself has a different feel to it. I had CDE and just X way way back in the days. I remember once having access to an OS/2 box running X which was connected to UNIX. This way back in the 486 days. Don't remember much about it. I remember the hummingbird was part of the logo. Little fragments like that. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> |
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| Date | 2017-05-08 08:27 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. |
| Message-ID | <2vZPA.20465$rp2.2176@fx31.iad> |
| In reply to | #413637 |
On 2017-05-07 7:10 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2017-05-07, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>> The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel: >>> >>> Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button. >>> Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way ) >>> Ring Finder on RighClick ( again, if you set it that way ). >> >> Really? Where is the middle button? One of those chicklet >> buttons? Sorry, that's a FAIL. > > Absolutely a fail for what I would want. The three main buttons need to > be first-class citizens on the mouse. > > http://imgur.com/CjNWK5O > This is pretty much the original way I had it back in the late 80's > starting with the Amiga. It would be another ten years or more and until > around 1999 that I would have something like again with Sun > Microsystems. It looks a lot like the two-button mouse IBM provided with the IBM PS/1 I got back in 1991. > http://imgur.com/fktHKr4 > And then several years ago I found the IBM mouse pictures here in the > middle. But having got used to the wheel I wasn't ready to give that up > for the middle button even though this was one of the only mice I'd > found in years to be close to what I once had. Generic-looking mice for the last two but I imagine that the first one is the most used. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia & EFF Member Gab.ai: @silverslimer Death to Islam
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-08 10:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. |
| Message-ID | <HaCdnY5BSfUIFY3EnZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #413779 |
On 2017-05-08, Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: > On 2017-05-07 7:10 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> On 2017-05-07, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>>> The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel: >>>> >>>> Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button. >>>> Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way ) >>>> Ring Finder on RighClick ( again, if you set it that way ). >>> >>> Really? Where is the middle button? One of those chicklet >>> buttons? Sorry, that's a FAIL. >> >> Absolutely a fail for what I would want. The three main buttons need to >> be first-class citizens on the mouse. >> >> http://imgur.com/CjNWK5O >> This is pretty much the original way I had it back in the late 80's >> starting with the Amiga. It would be another ten years or more and until >> around 1999 that I would have something like again with Sun >> Microsystems. > > It looks a lot like the two-button mouse IBM provided with the IBM PS/1 > I got back in 1991. > >> http://imgur.com/fktHKr4 >> And then several years ago I found the IBM mouse pictures here in the >> middle. But having got used to the wheel I wasn't ready to give that up >> for the middle button even though this was one of the only mice I'd >> found in years to be close to what I once had. > > Generic-looking mice for the last two but I imagine that the first one > is the most used. The 3D connexion is the mouse I mostly use now. Unless I am completely mobile in which case I use the one on the right or the touch pad. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-05-08 18:23 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. |
| Message-ID | <5910efd9$0$53176$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #413576 |
On 5/7/2017 5:42 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> > My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons: >> > >> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG >> > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT >> >> I want a traditional 3-button mouse which also has a wheel. > > The g600 has 3 buttons and a wheel: > > Pointer Finger on the LeftClick button. > Middle Finger on MiddleClick ( if you set it that way ) > Ring Finder on RighClick ( again, if you set it that way ). > > You can set the other buttons to do nothing, if you want. > > Bill does not allow anyone to have a mouse with more buttons than he can handle. That's why all microsoft mice only have two buttons and a stupid stupid double click.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-08 19:22 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. |
| Message-ID | <oequg0$ddu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #413951 |
On 5/8/2017 6:23 PM, benj wrote: > Bill does not allow anyone to have a mouse with more buttons than he can > handle. That's why all microsoft mice only have two buttons and a stupid > stupid double click. for lazy people http://imgur.com/a/zTFWj
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 11:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52B806D.A27A5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412144 |
On 4/30/17, 10:47 AM, in article oe57ur01t6g@news6.newsguy.com, "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:32:00 +0000, owl wrote: > >> >> Then I guess you're fucked. >> > > Me "fucked?" Ha, ha, ha, ha! That's an impossibility! > > I can simply edit my xorg.config file thusly: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse1" > ... > > Option "DragLockButtons" "2" > ... > > EndSection > > Now, my middle mouse button behaves as a "meta key". > If I press it, the next button that is pressed will > become locked. I can therefore drag lock at will. > > However, this will also prevent the use of my middle > button for any other purpose. > > But I can just get a mouse with a few more buttons. > OK, I have to say while I would be unlikely to use it I can see where having such a meta-key could be cool... and it is not, as far as I know, available on the tools I have shown. Cool! -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 19:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zcvi3la.uu@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #412144 |
F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:32:00 +0000, owl wrote: > >> >> Then I guess you're fucked. >> > > Me "fucked?" Ha, ha, ha, ha! That's an impossibility! > > I can simply edit my xorg.config file thusly: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse1" > ... > Option "DragLockButtons" "2" > ... > EndSection > > Now, my middle mouse button behaves as a "meta key". > If I press it, the next button that is pressed will > become locked. I can therefore drag lock at will. > > However, this will also prevent the use of my middle > button for any other purpose. > > But I can just get a mouse with a few more buttons. > Map F3 to mouse button 1: xmodmap -e "keycode 69 = Pointer_Button1" toggle on and off with: xkbset m xkbset -m
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 22:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe5nhu014ra@news7.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #412191 |
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:55:26 +0000, owl wrote: > > Map F3 to mouse button 1: > > xmodmap -e "keycode 69 = Pointer_Button1" > You would pick F3, which is a key I frequently use for other purposes. I'll just use F1.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 15:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52BB0DD.A299C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412215 |
On 4/30/17, 3:13 PM, in article oe5nhu014ra@news7.newsguy.com, "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:55:26 +0000, owl wrote: > >> >> Map F3 to mouse button 1: >> >> xmodmap -e "keycode 69 = Pointer_Button1" >> > > You would pick F3, which is a key I frequently use for > other purposes. > > I'll just use F1. > You need help. :) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 01:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zv8400a.3y@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #412215 |
F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:55:26 +0000, owl wrote: > >> >> Map F3 to mouse button 1: >> >> xmodmap -e "keycode 69 = Pointer_Button1" >> > > You would pick F3, which is a key I frequently use for > other purposes. > > I'll just use F1. > Map F5-F10 to shifted 5-10 for this stuff: x*y^(1/5)+a*(b+y)+c%d anon@lowtide:~$ cat mathmap #!/bin/bash xmodmap -e 'keycode 71 = percent' xmodmap -e 'keycode 72 = asciicircum' xmodmap -e 'keycode 73 = ampersand' xmodmap -e 'keycode 74 = asterisk' xmodmap -e 'keycode 75 = parenleft' xmodmap -e 'keycode 76 = parenright' anon@lowtide:~$ Return to normal: anon@lowtide:~$ cat mathunmap #!/bin/bash setxkbmap -layout us anon@lowtide:~$
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 10:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe72q7021lu@news7.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #412278 |
On Mon, 01 May 2017 01:01:07 +0000, owl wrote: > > Map F5-F10 to shifted 5-10 for this stuff: > x*y^(1/5)+a*(b+y)+c%d > That's a good idea. I'm much too lazy to research all this stuff myself so I was hoping that someone else would do it for me. But looking at the available keycodes with "xmodmap -pke" it seems that there are oodles of unassigned keys. This means it would be possible to include far more keys, including programmable keys, into a single keyboard device (as opposed to several separate devices). A lot of those extra keys could be mapped into a unicode sequence to allow entry of UTF-8 characters with a single keystroke and without having to reference any code chart. Now let someone else (not me) get the draftsman and design engineers together to create the "blueprints" to then send to a derelict factory in China for mass production.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 13:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zc800f.agju8@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #412296 |
F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote: > On Mon, 01 May 2017 01:01:07 +0000, owl wrote: > >> >> Map F5-F10 to shifted 5-10 for this stuff: >> x*y^(1/5)+a*(b+y)+c%d >> > > That's a good idea. > > I'm much too lazy to research all this stuff myself so > I was hoping that someone else would do it for me. > Too lazy to run xev. That's pretty bad.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 09:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52B641D.A274F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412105 |
On 4/30/17, 7:35 AM, in article oe4sml02eek@news4.newsguy.com, "F. Russell"
<fr@random.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:16:58 +0000, owl wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll try to figure out how it is supposed to work.
>>
>
> It's supposed to work like this:
>
> ftp://www.x.org/pub/xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/mouse5.html
>
> The drag lock buttons can be configured in the xorg.config
> file, but I am not sure if this still applies to the
> evdev/xinput garbage that is now the norm.
>
> Fortunately, I still use the "legacy" input methods, but
> this still doesn't help. The drag lock buttons are intended
> for track balls and only apply to buttons. I need a key,
> or a key combination, that I can press to lock the button.
>
> Also, I am not referring to text selection. I am referring
> to selecting portions of images in an image editor like the
> GIMP. Having to hold down the button while scrolling becomes
> awkward and fatiguing. Sometimes the scrolling must persist
> for several minutes. A drag lock key is most desirable.
>
> In this case, a drawing pad is the ideal solution, but since
> I perform such selections only infrequently I'd rather not
> invest in a drawing pad.
>
> I need a drag lock key!!!
>
I am surprised common Linux DEs do not have such things built in. Here is
macOS with USB Overdrive installed:
<https://youtu.be/mbdUNLfyaNs>
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 07:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oe4ipp$cpe$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412070 |
owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:34:22 +0000, owl wrote: >> >>> Or you can do this to toggle using left and right together to >>> emulate middle: >> >> Hardware solutions are always better. >> >> My preference is to set up a foot switch, where pressing >> on a switch with my right foot activates the middle button. LOL Is this guy for real? >> The possibilities are endless. > > LOL. And you can pump it for the scroll wheel. Or better yet, use a MIDI breath controller :-D Chuckle: -- FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #31 A: Chicken Teriyaki. Q: What is the name of the world's oldest kamikaze pilot?
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 14:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe4st612eek@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #412102 |
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 07:40:54 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > > LOL Is this guy for real? > That's why you are still in a cube, and you'll be in a cube until your dying day. Whereas _I_ have my own office. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Fucking useless monkey.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 18:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <oe53om$58r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412106 |
F. Russell wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 07:40:54 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> >> LOL Is this guy for real? >> > > That's why you are still in a cube, and you'll be in > a cube until your dying day. > > Whereas _I_ have my own office. Let me guess: It is located in your moms house. And normal people call it "basement"
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