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| Started by | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| First post | 2017-04-28 23:21 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-04-29 23:55 +0000 |
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Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-28 23:21 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:05 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 09:22 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:49 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:13 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 15:43 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:57 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:18 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-29 11:14 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 10:39 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 10:55 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-29 15:06 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 14:28 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 20:04 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 15:55 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 11:04 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 17:03 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 12:08 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 17:45 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 21:50 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 10:53 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-29 15:17 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 20:10 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 20:34 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 20:45 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 21:01 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 22:09 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:16 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:47 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 18:53 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:58 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 19:03 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 01:20 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 20:35 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 02:08 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 21:22 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 03:53 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-30 00:09 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-30 08:08 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:02 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-30 12:08 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:02 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 12:03 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> - 2017-05-01 16:29 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-05-01 10:31 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-01 12:00 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-05-02 05:45 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 10:16 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 19:03 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-05-02 18:21 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 23:51 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-05-03 08:49 +0200
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 22:21 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 18:42 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-29 17:10 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 14:35 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 15:31 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 16:25 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 09:48 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 17:23 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:32 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 17:47 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:58 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:57 -0700
Re: My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 21:23 +0000
Re: My $40 Logitech g600 mouse has 39 LuaScript programmable buttons. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 14:32 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 14:47 -0700
The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 15:36 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 15:42 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 14:47 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 22:06 +0000
The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 15:23 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 22:43 +0000
$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 15:56 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-07 23:03 +0000
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-05-07 19:12 -0400
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:03 -0700
$39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 20:54 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 20:58 -0700
gShift Middle(Wheel)Click answers the phone no matter if the monitor is Off|On. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 21:27 -0700
Re: gShift Middle(Wheel)Click answers the phone no matter if the monitor is Off|On. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 10:20 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 22:25 +0000
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 15:51 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? John Smith <mynameiscommon@wingo3.org> - 2017-05-08 23:27 +0000
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-08 17:23 -0700
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-05-08 08:25 -0400
Re: $39 ( for the g600 ) is too much ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-08 18:28 -0400
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 15:59 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-07 18:16 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:26 -0700
Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 21:01 -0700
Re: Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 21:15 -0700
Re: Disabling the side buttons ( so nothing happens ) is super easy. John Smith <mynameiscommon@wingo3.org> - 2017-05-09 03:52 +0000
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-08 01:52 +0000
My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-07 21:14 -0700
Re: My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 21:21 -0700
Re: My hand stands on thumb and pinky, not touching the mouse. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-08 18:32 -0400
The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-08 22:48 -0700
Re: The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 04:33 -0400
Re: The ( BigAss ) Left, Right and gShift buttons. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-09 16:34 +0000
Games are more enjoyable when you don't need a keyboard|controller. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-09 14:10 -0700
CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-05-09 14:27 -0700
Re: CtrlClick, ShiftClick and AltShiftClick without touching the keyboard. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-09 14:35 -0700
Re: The g600 mouse has 3 BIG buttons: Pointer, Middle and Ring Fingers. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-07 18:14 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-07 18:10 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-05-08 08:27 -0400
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-05-08 10:02 -0500
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-08 18:23 -0400
Re: The g600 mouse has has 3 buttons and a wheel. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-05-08 19:22 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:52 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-30 19:55 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 22:13 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 15:18 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-01 01:01 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-05-01 10:31 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:52 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 09:51 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-30 07:40 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-30 14:38 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-30 18:38 +0200
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 09:53 -0700
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-30 13:58 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:16 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-01 13:23 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-05-01 18:14 -0400
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 15:40 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 21:48 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 22:25 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 17:48 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:22 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-29 18:32 -0500
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Logitech 3 button mouse owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-29 23:55 +0000
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 12:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5o6dnUAn05CLh5vEnZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #412128 |
On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>>> On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> // snip >>>> >>>>>>> Mine's going to be here Wednesday. Ordered the pad too. I used to have >>>>>>> a nice hard plastic pad that disappeared somewhere. I've been using my >>>>>>> mouse directly on a wooden surface since then. It's worn the varnish >>>>>>> off of that spot, and movement is getting crappy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, Amazon is freaky fast for whatever reason. I ordered two more this >>>>>> morning and no kidding they are here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/iEQbm >>>>>> >>>>>> Already got them. Aside from my laptop I have two desktops I like to use, >>>>>> both of which have mechanical keyboards. Now they will each get one of >>>>>> these as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I pretty much have the feel of my old system in terms of focus, >>>>>> three buttons and mechanical keyboards. Actually those old 3-button laser >>>>>> mice were pretty expensive back in the day as well. I think I paid about >>>>>> $149 for a really nice one I once had on the Amiga which had a special >>>>>> mouse pad that was medal and had a grid under the matte surface. It was >>>>>> smaller than this and no wheel but at the time there wasn't a browser >>>>>> anyway so what was I missing... >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a mouse pad that they offer with these or are you just getting >>>>>> a mouse pad in general? I didn't notice any pad being offered with this >>>>>> on Amazon. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's this one. >>>>> http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/cadmouse-pad >>>>> Got both at Amazon. No bundle deal or anything. >>>>> >>>>> 3Dconnexion actually has a killer bundle on the their SpaceMouse >>>>> Enterprise, the Cadmouse, pad, and a hub, all for $429. (The >>>>> SpaceMouse Enterprise by itself is $399). That would probably >>>>> be nice to have for Blender work. >>>> >>>> I watched the video for the space mouse enterprise. Makes me wonder if >>>> that's where Apple got the idea for the task bar. Though I think these >>>> guys have it down much better. That looks like SolidWorks they're >>>> running there. Nice app. That and a 3D printer and you could get into >>>> some simple mechanical designs. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah, that would be cool. >>> This vid gives a pretty good overview of the whole set: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTvrDafbSI >> >> It's a good video. I got to see a preview of the mouse pad. Might order >> one of those and see how I like it. >> >>>> That mouse pad looks pretty large too. Let me know how you like it when >>>> it arrives and if it is rigid. I'll bet you write some cool script for >>>> the mouse. I haven't done anything other than plug it in. The middle >>>> button works right out of the box as expected so I'm pretty happy with >>>> as is. >>>> >>> >>> Having a middle button separate from the wheel is all I really >>> care about. >> >> That alone has me sold on this mouse. Just having that feature back >> finally after all these years and now getting the focus back as well >> returns the original feel of UNIX I loved so much. Not since the 90s >> have I had these features all together all at once. >> >>>> What might be interesting though is to setup the side buttons to push >>>> forward and backward into and out of virtual desktops. >>> >>> My pager already works with the wheel to scroll between desktops. >> >> If I hit the super-key then I can use the wheel to scroll from one vm to >> the next. But I'm thinking I might like a single press of the front and >> back buttons on the mouse to instantly switch me to the forward or back >> vm desktop. Any tips on that functionality? >> > > I can switch desktops with <ctrl>+<alt>+[up|down|left|right]arrow. > I would try to xbindeys those buttons to whatever keyboard sequence > switches desktops for you. (use xte for the keystrokes). > > xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Alt_L' 'key Right' 'keyup Alt_L' 'keyup Control_L' > > switches desktops to the right, just like pressing <Ctrl>+<ALT>+Right Arrow. > > So put the corresponding commands, along with a button, in xbindkeys config. > > "xte 'keydown Control_L' ..." > b:N > > where N is the button. Thank you kind sir. Now I am starting to like using the super key. I never played with it until a few days ago. In Gnome 3 is gives me a view of all the apps on the desktop nicely separated so I can choose the one I want and of course, if I wheel up or down I can choose any app from any desktop. I've not really got into the whole multiple desktops until quite recently. I know two guys that really are into it in big ways. I'm still just scratching the surface. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 12:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52B82C2.A27B5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412132 |
On 4/30/17, 10:08 AM, in article 5o6dnUAn05CLh5vEnZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> I can switch desktops with <ctrl>+<alt>+[up|down|left|right]arrow. >> I would try to xbindeys those buttons to whatever keyboard sequence >> switches desktops for you. (use xte for the keystrokes). >> >> xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Alt_L' 'key Right' 'keyup Alt_L' 'keyup >> Control_L' >> >> switches desktops to the right, just like pressing <Ctrl>+<ALT>+Right Arrow. >> >> So put the corresponding commands, along with a button, in xbindkeys config. >> >> "xte 'keydown Control_L' ..." >> b:N >> >> where N is the button. > > Thank you kind sir. Now I am starting to like using the super key. I > never played with it until a few days ago. In Gnome 3 is gives me a view > of all the apps on the desktop nicely separated so I can choose the one > I want and of course, if I wheel up or down I can choose any app from > any desktop. With my setup I can see all the windows and then with the mouse or keyboard see specific windows enlarged. Did not know scroll up did that... just tried it and it does. Thanks for inspiring me to try. :) > I've not really got into the whole multiple desktops until quite > recently. I know two guys that really are into it in big ways. I'm still > just scratching the surface. They can be an amazing tool but for most users they do little (perhaps with the exception of those with small screens or when tied to the full-screen system of the UI). For "techie" users such as yourself, though, they can be wonderful. I find I use them more than I used to... and think the Linux options with the "pagers" add a pretty big benefit the macOS solution lacks. If you use the same ones quite a bit they ability to name them is also a good bonus macOS lacks. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 12:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52B8323.A27B6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412128 |
On 4/30/17, 10:02 AM, in article xva030va.33@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> That alone has me sold on this mouse. Just having that feature back >> finally after all these years and now getting the focus back as well >> returns the original feel of UNIX I loved so much. Not since the 90s >> have I had these features all together all at once. >> >>>> What might be interesting though is to setup the side buttons to push >>>> forward and backward into and out of virtual desktops. >>> >>> My pager already works with the wheel to scroll between desktops. >> >> If I hit the super-key then I can use the wheel to scroll from one vm to >> the next. But I'm thinking I might like a single press of the front and >> back buttons on the mouse to instantly switch me to the forward or back >> vm desktop. Any tips on that functionality? >> > > I can switch desktops with <ctrl>+<alt>+[up|down|left|right]arrow. For me it is control+left/right. Control+up gets me to "Mission Control" where I can see the overview (though Apple has absurdly made it so I have to mouse to the names of the desktops (preset and unchangable!) to see what is on them. > I would try to xbindeys those buttons to whatever keyboard sequence > switches desktops for you. (use xte for the keystrokes). > > xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Alt_L' 'key Right' 'keyup Alt_L' 'keyup > Control_L' > > switches desktops to the right, just like pressing <Ctrl>+<ALT>+Right Arrow. > > So put the corresponding commands, along with a button, in xbindkeys config. > > "xte 'keydown Control_L' ..." > b:N > > where N is the button. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 16:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe7np5$j46$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412128 |
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:02:15 +0000, owl wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>>> On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2017-04-30, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> // snip >>>> >>>>>>> Mine's going to be here Wednesday. Ordered the pad too. I used >>>>>>> to have a nice hard plastic pad that disappeared somewhere. I've >>>>>>> been using my mouse directly on a wooden surface since then. It's >>>>>>> worn the varnish off of that spot, and movement is getting crappy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, Amazon is freaky fast for whatever reason. I ordered two more >>>>>> this morning and no kidding they are here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/iEQbm >>>>>> >>>>>> Already got them. Aside from my laptop I have two desktops I like >>>>>> to use, >>>>>> both of which have mechanical keyboards. Now they will each get one >>>>>> of these as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I pretty much have the feel of my old system in terms of >>>>>> focus, three buttons and mechanical keyboards. Actually those old >>>>>> 3-button laser mice were pretty expensive back in the day as well. >>>>>> I think I paid about $149 for a really nice one I once had on the >>>>>> Amiga which had a special mouse pad that was medal and had a grid >>>>>> under the matte surface. It was smaller than this and no wheel but >>>>>> at the time there wasn't a browser anyway so what was I missing... >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a mouse pad that they offer with these or are you just >>>>>> getting a mouse pad in general? I didn't notice any pad being >>>>>> offered with this on Amazon. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> It's this one. >>>>> http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/cadmouse-pad Got both at Amazon. >>>>> No bundle deal or anything. >>>>> >>>>> 3Dconnexion actually has a killer bundle on the their SpaceMouse >>>>> Enterprise, the Cadmouse, pad, and a hub, all for $429. (The >>>>> SpaceMouse Enterprise by itself is $399). That would probably be >>>>> nice to have for Blender work. >>>> >>>> I watched the video for the space mouse enterprise. Makes me wonder >>>> if that's where Apple got the idea for the task bar. Though I think >>>> these guys have it down much better. That looks like SolidWorks >>>> they're running there. Nice app. That and a 3D printer and you could >>>> get into some simple mechanical designs. >>>> >>>> >>> Yeah, that would be cool. >>> This vid gives a pretty good overview of the whole set: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTvrDafbSI >> >> It's a good video. I got to see a preview of the mouse pad. Might order >> one of those and see how I like it. >> >>>> That mouse pad looks pretty large too. Let me know how you like it >>>> when it arrives and if it is rigid. I'll bet you write some cool >>>> script for the mouse. I haven't done anything other than plug it in. >>>> The middle button works right out of the box as expected so I'm >>>> pretty happy with as is. >>>> >>>> >>> Having a middle button separate from the wheel is all I really care >>> about. >> >> That alone has me sold on this mouse. Just having that feature back >> finally after all these years and now getting the focus back as well >> returns the original feel of UNIX I loved so much. Not since the 90s >> have I had these features all together all at once. >> >>>> What might be interesting though is to setup the side buttons to push >>>> forward and backward into and out of virtual desktops. >>> >>> My pager already works with the wheel to scroll between desktops. >> >> If I hit the super-key then I can use the wheel to scroll from one vm >> to the next. But I'm thinking I might like a single press of the front >> and back buttons on the mouse to instantly switch me to the forward or >> back vm desktop. Any tips on that functionality? >> >> > I can switch desktops with <ctrl>+<alt>+[up|down|left|right]arrow. > I would try to xbindeys those buttons to whatever keyboard sequence > switches desktops for you. (use xte for the keystrokes). > > xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Alt_L' 'key Right' 'keyup Alt_L' 'keyup > Control_L' > > switches desktops to the right, just like pressing <Ctrl>+<ALT>+Right > Arrow. > > So put the corresponding commands, along with a button, in xbindkeys > config. > > "xte 'keydown Control_L' ..." > b:N > > where N is the button. My Logitech 7 button mouse allows the buttons to be assigned to different tasks on a program to program basis. So I can have the 7 buttons perform 7 actions under Adobe and have the same mouse perform 7 different actions under ScreenFlow. And it's trivial to set up. No configuration files needing manual editing. It's all point and click. Can Linux do that? Just curious.
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 10:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7e830d49-24e6-40dc-9628-b8e860262d99@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #412339 |
On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 12:32:42 PM UTC-4, Glenn Harrison wrote: > > Can Linux do that? > No. Now get the fuck out of here and don't come back. Fucking asshole.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-01 12:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52CD3E5.A2E63%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412339 |
On 5/1/17, 9:29 AM, in article oe7np5$j46$2@dont-email.me, "Glenn Harrison" <glannharrison0@gmail.com> wrote: >> I can switch desktops with <ctrl>+<alt>+[up|down|left|right]arrow. >> I would try to xbindeys those buttons to whatever keyboard sequence >> switches desktops for you. (use xte for the keystrokes). >> >> xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Alt_L' 'key Right' 'keyup Alt_L' 'keyup >> Control_L' >> >> switches desktops to the right, just like pressing <Ctrl>+<ALT>+Right >> Arrow. >> >> So put the corresponding commands, along with a button, in xbindkeys >> config. >> >> "xte 'keydown Control_L' ..." >> b:N >> >> where N is the button. > > My Logitech 7 button mouse allows the buttons to be assigned to different > tasks on a program to program basis. > So I can have the 7 buttons perform 7 actions under Adobe and have the > same mouse perform 7 different actions under ScreenFlow. You use ScreenFlow as well? Would love to see some of the work you have done. > And it's trivial to set up. No configuration files needing manual editing. > It's all point and click. > > Can Linux do that? > Just curious. Seems it cannot. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 05:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oe9koi$pml$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412339 |
Glenn Harrison wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > My Logitech 7 button mouse allows... No it doesn't. The software that Logitech provides (Windoze & Mak only) allows it. > ...the buttons to be assigned to different > tasks on a program to program basis. > So I can have the 7 buttons perform 7 actions under Adobe and have the > same mouse perform 7 different actions under ScreenFlow. That sounds really confusing, "Glenn". How do you remember what those 7 buttons do, if they do something different on every application that you had to configure, "Glenn". How do you deal with all the "choice", "Glenn"? And what happens if you fat-finger one of those buttons? > And it's trivial to set up. No configuration files needing manual editing. > It's all point and click. And writing down notes about what button does what, and when :-D > Can Linux do that? It's not "Linux", "Glenn". And you need to be asking Logitech why they didn't write the software for Linux. But, since you asked, check out http://imwheel.sourceforge.net It even has a little config GUI. Is it as good as what the mouse vendor provides? Probably not. > Just curious. You certainly are, "Glenn". -- You are the only person to ever get this message.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 10:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52E0CE1.A3156%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412471 |
On 5/2/17, 2:45 AM, in article oe9koi$pml$2@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Glenn Harrison wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> My Logitech 7 button mouse allows...
>
> No it doesn't. The software that Logitech provides (Windoze & Mak only)
> allows it.
For me the hardware and software I have work to make for a great mouse
experience. Here:
<https://youtu.be/V791-XhhOxY>
As far as I know nothing on Linux comes close to that... but I am open to
being shown to be wrong. Would love to be wrong.
>> ...the buttons to be assigned to different
>> tasks on a program to program basis.
>> So I can have the 7 buttons perform 7 actions under Adobe and have the
>> same mouse perform 7 different actions under ScreenFlow.
>
> That sounds really confusing, "Glenn". How do you remember what those 7
> buttons do, if they do something different on every application that you
> had to configure, "Glenn". How do you deal with all the "choice", "Glenn"?
>
> And what happens if you fat-finger one of those buttons?
I do not set the eight buttons (plus middle-press-up and middle-press-down)
to each do different things... I agree that would be challenging to deal
with. But I do set different buttons per application as I wish, and that
makes a big difference.
>> And it's trivial to set up. No configuration files needing manual editing.
>> It's all point and click.
>
> And writing down notes about what button does what, and when :-D
I have no need for that... but do not set things insanely.
>> Can Linux do that?
>
> It's not "Linux", "Glenn". And you need to be asking Logitech why
> they didn't write the software for Linux.
>
> But, since you asked, check out http://imwheel.sourceforge.net
>
> It even has a little config GUI. Is it as good as what the mouse vendor
> provides? Probably not.
Would love to see a demo of it. I have updated my configuration with USB
Overdrive and can show an updated demo if anyone cares.
>> Just curious.
>
> You certainly are, "Glenn".
I will not speak for others, but I know I am curious as to what Linux can
do.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 19:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oeal6s$e0u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412471 |
On Tue, 02 May 2017 05:45:02 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Glenn Harrison wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> My Logitech 7 button mouse allows... > > No it doesn't. The software that Logitech provides (Windoze & Mak only) > allows it. Doesn't matter from a user perspective. With OSX or Windows the user has full functionality of the hardware. With Linux? I doubt if Linux could even support the 7 buttons without editing some cryptic to mere mortals configuration file. >> ...the buttons to be assigned to different tasks on a program to >> program basis. >> So I can have the 7 buttons perform 7 actions under Adobe and have the >> same mouse perform 7 different actions under ScreenFlow. > > That sounds really confusing, "Glenn". How do you remember what those 7 > buttons do, if they do something different on every application that you > had to configure, "Glenn". How do you deal with all the "choice", > "Glenn"? I don't have all 7 buttons configured differently for each program. Some of the buttons are dedicated to system functions like bringing up the running program list. And what's with the quotes? > And what happens if you fat-finger one of those buttons? I see a task list instead of the next page of a document, for example. What happens when you fat finger your cryptic mouse configuration file? You end up with a non working mouse, that's what happens. >> And it's trivial to set up. No configuration files needing manual >> editing. >> It's all point and click. > > And writing down notes about what button does what, and when :-D You must be a slow learner. >> Can Linux do that? > > It's not "Linux", "Glenn". And you need to be asking Logitech why they > didn't write the software for Linux. Because Linux users prefer using ancient technology and the market for a device that improves productivity under Linux is near zero. > But, since you asked, check out http://imwheel.sourceforge.net > > It even has a little config GUI. Is it as good as what the mouse vendor > provides? Probably not. It fails at step 2: "Edit your configuration file" You've just lost your audience. >> Just curious. > > You certainly are, "Glenn". Quotes again? You are a strange one "Chris Ahlstrom".
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 18:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oeb127$soo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412571 |
Glenn Harrison wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > Whatever, shit-for-brains. -- Avert misunderstanding by calm, poise, and balance.
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| From | Glenn Harrison <glannharrison0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-02 23:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oeb62u$9tr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412619 |
On Tue, 02 May 2017 18:21:05 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Glenn Harrison wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > > >> > Whatever, shit-for-brains. I refuse to sink to your level. Hopefully someday you can begin to feel better about yourself so you don't have to compensate by lashing out at others.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2017-05-03 08:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <oebucf$tqg$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #412619 |
Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Glenn Harrison wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> > > Whatever, shit-for-brains. > Well, what to expect from the lying imbecile? More socks, that's it
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-29 22:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52AC275.A24B9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412094 |
On 4/29/17, 7:22 PM, in article
ZMGdnYH7pMvF15jEnZ2dnUU7-R3NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
<marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>> It's this one.
>> http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/cadmouse-pad
>> Got both at Amazon. No bundle deal or anything.
>>
>> 3Dconnexion actually has a killer bundle on the their SpaceMouse
>> Enterprise, the Cadmouse, pad, and a hub, all for $429. (The
>> SpaceMouse Enterprise by itself is $399). That would probably
>> be nice to have for Blender work.
>
> I watched the video for the space mouse enterprise. Makes me wonder if
> that's where Apple got the idea for the task bar.
You mean the dock? Apple got that from NeXT.
> Though I think these guys have it down much better. That looks like SolidWorks
> they're running there. Nice app. That and a 3D printer and you could get into
> some simple mechanical designs.
>
> That mouse pad looks pretty large too. Let me know how you like it when
> it arrives and if it is rigid. I'll bet you write some cool script for
> the mouse. I haven't done anything other than plug it in. The middle
> button works right out of the box as expected so I'm pretty happy with
> as is.
For me I am pretty picky with how my mice work. I made a video showing the
old driver... here is the new. Mostly the same settings but just a different
driver with a somewhat different UI.
<https://youtu.be/V791-XhhOxY>
Overall I like it but I wish I could see all the settings at a glance.
> What might be interesting though is to setup the side buttons to push
> forward and backward into and out of virtual desktops.
Are you able to set it so the buttons do different things in different
programs? If so, how about different VMs? One limit mine has is the OS sees
all my VM programs as being in Parallels so I cannot change the options for
different programs in Linux or Windows. I suppose I could use a Windows or
Linux driver to do that, but then I would likely have to have the Parallels
driver not be in control.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-29 18:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52A8EF9.A249C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412090 |
On 4/29/17, 6:20 PM, in article azc80b3.y8344@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> It only generates a little >>>> gravity and if you don't like it you can use it as an aircraft carrier >>>> carrier or as a small floating city. Maybe if you get a few Falcon >>>> Heavies together you could launch it into space. If you get it to orbit >>>> our star someone might mistake it for planet 9. >>> >>> I'm waiting for a mouse I can click and launch myself into orbit. >> >> Sounds expensive. :) >> >> According to Amazon my two more mice are coming today instead of >> tomorrow. Pretty neat since I just ordered them today. What the heck, >> same day delivery? We'll see if they actually get here today. >> > > Mine's going to be here Wednesday. Ordered the pad too. I used to have > a nice hard plastic pad that disappeared somewhere. I've been using my > mouse directly on a wooden surface since then. It's worn the varnish > off of that spot, and movement is getting crappy. With my MX518 no longer officially supported by the folks who made my mouse driver I was afraid I would need a new mouse. Looked at the ones with the features I like -- back and previous buttons being high on the list. What the hell? Most have glowing lights and other silliness. Not interested. I want a mouse that is functional, not distracting and designed to look cool or whatever. USB Overdrive to the rescue. Supports my mouse, supports working as I want in different programs, etc. Fairly easy to set up (though with the number of programs I customize it took a bit of time... could be easier but it is a one-time thing) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-29 17:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52A797A.A2491%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412083 |
On 4/29/17, 4:47 PM, in article azxcv803.y@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:01:22 +0000, owl wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> And you can pump it for the scroll wheel. >>>> >>> >>> No, no, no. Scrolling is much more naturally done with the >>> hands or fingers. >>> >>> The foot is more natural for the occasional and odd single click >>> type action. >>> >>> One thing that is needed is a left-button lock. Most graphic >>> software like the GIMP allows for making selections while >>> holding down the left button. But for large and intricate >>> selections, this action becomes awkward and tiring after >>> a few seconds -- and once the button is released all your >>> work will vanish. >> >> For basic X selections, you cat left-click the start and right-click >> the end, and it's the same as dragging a left-click paint. >> >> xinput gives this for my mouse: >> >> Evdev Drag Lock Buttons (271): 0 >> >> Setting it to 1 screwed things up and didn't work as expected. >> Had to unplug/replug mouse to get things back to normal. >> I'll try to figure out how it is supposed to work. >> > > OK, this did it, but it's funky and the middle-click emulation > doesn't work for pasting (have to actually click the wheel): > > xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1 > > That sets button 1 as its own lock button. I don't like the effect. > I'd rather left-click then right-click. > I got tired of some of the quirks on my mouse driver (nothing too big, but it was awkward to select new programs to add to its list)... tried USB Overdrive. Wow. Works much like my old driver for all my needs but easier to set up. Maybe will make a video showing it someday. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-30 14:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe4sml02eek@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #412079 |
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:16:58 +0000, owl wrote: > > I'll try to figure out how it is supposed to work. > It's supposed to work like this: ftp://www.x.org/pub/xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/mouse5.html The drag lock buttons can be configured in the xorg.config file, but I am not sure if this still applies to the evdev/xinput garbage that is now the norm. Fortunately, I still use the "legacy" input methods, but this still doesn't help. The drag lock buttons are intended for track balls and only apply to buttons. I need a key, or a key combination, that I can press to lock the button. Also, I am not referring to text selection. I am referring to selecting portions of images in an image editor like the GIMP. Having to hold down the button while scrolling becomes awkward and fatiguing. Sometimes the scrolling must persist for several minutes. A drag lock key is most desirable. In this case, a drawing pad is the ideal solution, but since I perform such selections only infrequently I'd rather not invest in a drawing pad. I need a drag lock key!!!
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 15:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <av9308ab.r33@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #412105 |
F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:16:58 +0000, owl wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll try to figure out how it is supposed to work.
>>
>
> It's supposed to work like this:
>
> ftp://www.x.org/pub/xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/mouse5.html
>
> The drag lock buttons can be configured in the xorg.config
> file, but I am not sure if this still applies to the
> evdev/xinput garbage that is now the norm.
>
> Fortunately, I still use the "legacy" input methods, but
> this still doesn't help. The drag lock buttons are intended
> for track balls and only apply to buttons. I need a key,
> or a key combination, that I can press to lock the button.
>
> Also, I am not referring to text selection. I am referring
> to selecting portions of images in an image editor like the
> GIMP. Having to hold down the button while scrolling becomes
> awkward and fatiguing. Sometimes the scrolling must persist
> for several minutes. A drag lock key is most desirable.
>
> In this case, a drawing pad is the ideal solution, but since
> I perform such selections only infrequently I'd rather not
> invest in a drawing pad.
>
> I need a drag lock key!!!
>
Like I said, get the id of your mouse or trackball with
xinput --list
Then run
xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
That sets button 1 as its own lock button.
After running that, with a select tool in gimp,
1. left-click the start point
2. move the mouse (or trackball)
3. left-click the end point.
Turn it off with:
xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 0
You can bind this toggle to a hotkey (need your own mouse string):
anon@lowtide:~$ cat ll
#!/bin/bash
id=$(xinput --list |grep "Logitech USB Optical Mouse" \
|cut -f2 -d= |awk '{print $1}')
state=$(xinput --list-props 9 |grep "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" \
|cut -f2 -d: |awk '{print $1}'|sed -e 's/,//g')
case ${state} in
1) xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 0
zenity --info --text="button 1 lock now off"
;;
0) xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
zenity --info --text="button 1 lock now on"
;;
*)
;;
esac
anon@lowtide:~$
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-30 16:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zcv8002.ay@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #412109 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:16:58 +0000, owl wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'll try to figure out how it is supposed to work.
>>>
>>
>> It's supposed to work like this:
>>
>> ftp://www.x.org/pub/xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/mouse5.html
>>
>> The drag lock buttons can be configured in the xorg.config
>> file, but I am not sure if this still applies to the
>> evdev/xinput garbage that is now the norm.
>>
>> Fortunately, I still use the "legacy" input methods, but
>> this still doesn't help. The drag lock buttons are intended
>> for track balls and only apply to buttons. I need a key,
>> or a key combination, that I can press to lock the button.
>>
>> Also, I am not referring to text selection. I am referring
>> to selecting portions of images in an image editor like the
>> GIMP. Having to hold down the button while scrolling becomes
>> awkward and fatiguing. Sometimes the scrolling must persist
>> for several minutes. A drag lock key is most desirable.
>>
>> In this case, a drawing pad is the ideal solution, but since
>> I perform such selections only infrequently I'd rather not
>> invest in a drawing pad.
>>
>> I need a drag lock key!!!
>>
>
> Like I said, get the id of your mouse or trackball with
>
> xinput --list
>
> Then run
>
> xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
>
> That sets button 1 as its own lock button.
>
> After running that, with a select tool in gimp,
>
> 1. left-click the start point
> 2. move the mouse (or trackball)
> 3. left-click the end point.
>
> Turn it off with:
>
> xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 0
>
> You can bind this toggle to a hotkey (need your own mouse string):
>
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat ll
> #!/bin/bash
>
> id=$(xinput --list |grep "Logitech USB Optical Mouse" \
> |cut -f2 -d= |awk '{print $1}')
>
> state=$(xinput --list-props 9 |grep "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" \
> |cut -f2 -d: |awk '{print $1}'|sed -e 's/,//g')
>
> case ${state} in
> 1) xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 0
> zenity --info --text="button 1 lock now off"
> ;;
> 0) xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
> zenity --info --text="button 1 lock now on"
> ;;
> *)
> ;;
> esac
>
> anon@lowtide:~$
>
oops, replace '9' with ${id} in that.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-30 09:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D52B6370.A2747%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #412116 |
On 4/30/17, 9:25 AM, in article zcv8002.ay@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:16:58 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to figure out how it is supposed to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's supposed to work like this:
>>>
>>> ftp://www.x.org/pub/xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/mouse5.html
>>>
>>> The drag lock buttons can be configured in the xorg.config
>>> file, but I am not sure if this still applies to the
>>> evdev/xinput garbage that is now the norm.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, I still use the "legacy" input methods, but
>>> this still doesn't help. The drag lock buttons are intended
>>> for track balls and only apply to buttons. I need a key,
>>> or a key combination, that I can press to lock the button.
>>>
>>> Also, I am not referring to text selection. I am referring
>>> to selecting portions of images in an image editor like the
>>> GIMP. Having to hold down the button while scrolling becomes
>>> awkward and fatiguing. Sometimes the scrolling must persist
>>> for several minutes. A drag lock key is most desirable.
>>>
>>> In this case, a drawing pad is the ideal solution, but since
>>> I perform such selections only infrequently I'd rather not
>>> invest in a drawing pad.
>>>
>>> I need a drag lock key!!!
>>>
>>
>> Like I said, get the id of your mouse or trackball with
>>
>> xinput --list
>>
>> Then run
>>
>> xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
>>
>> That sets button 1 as its own lock button.
>>
>> After running that, with a select tool in gimp,
>>
>> 1. left-click the start point
>> 2. move the mouse (or trackball)
>> 3. left-click the end point.
>>
>> Turn it off with:
>>
>> xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 0
>>
>> You can bind this toggle to a hotkey (need your own mouse string):
>>
>> anon@lowtide:~$ cat ll
>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> id=$(xinput --list |grep "Logitech USB Optical Mouse" \
>> |cut -f2 -d= |awk '{print $1}')
>>
>> state=$(xinput --list-props 9 |grep "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" \
>> |cut -f2 -d: |awk '{print $1}'|sed -e 's/,//g')
>>
>> case ${state} in
>> 1) xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 0
>> zenity --info --text="button 1 lock now off"
>> ;;
>> 0) xinput --set-prop 9 "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
>> zenity --info --text="button 1 lock now on"
>> ;;
>> *)
>> ;;
>> esac
>>
>> anon@lowtide:~$
>>
>
> oops, replace '9' with ${id} in that.
>
Wow... would be great if you could set it up so one of the buttons on your
mouse always acted as a click-lock... but only for GIMP (or whatever program
you want). Other programs need not be effected:
<https://youtu.be/mbdUNLfyaNs>
Seriously, surprised Linux does not have this level of customization built
into common DEs.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-30 17:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oe56io11sci@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #412109 |
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:31:51 +0000, owl wrote:
>
> Like I said,
>
> xinput --set-prop ${id} "Evdev Drag Lock Buttons" 1 1
>
As I indicated, I am not using that junk-shit input method
known as "evdev."
My pointing device input has no property for drag lock:
xinput --list-props 6
Device 'Mouse1':
Device Enabled (142): 1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (144): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
Device Accel Profile (255): -1
Device Accel Constant Deceleration (256): 2.000000
Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (257): 1.000000
Device Accel Velocity Scaling (258): 10.000000
Device Node (259): "/dev/input/mouse0"
Button Labels (260): "Button Left" (145), "Button Middle" (146), "Button Right" (147), "Button Wheel Up" (148), "Button Wheel Down" (149), "Button Horiz Wheel Left" (150), "Button Horiz Wheel Right" (151), "Button Unknown" (254), "Button Unknown" (254)
Mouse Middle Button Emulation (261): 0
Mouse Middle Button Timeout (262): 50
In the past, drag lock was an easy matter to accomplish with
the accessibility keys, but since the assholes at freedesktop.org
took over the accessibility keys are no longer available.
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