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  The iPad already used more than Linux computers Clog_-_wog (®) <clog_-_wog@anonimous.eu> - 2011-04-23 21:07 +0200
    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 21:24 +0200
      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 16:11 -0400
        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers An Old Friend <an.old@friend.com.invalid> - 2011-04-24 00:59 +0100
          Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 23:20 +0000
            Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 23:23 +0000
              Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-24 10:43 +0100
                Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-24 20:38 +0100
                  Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-24 23:06 +0100
                    Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 19:17 -0400
                      Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:48 -0400
                        Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 21:19 -0400
                          Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-25 08:04 +0000
                            Re: Another lying piece of shit anti-linux troll Zeke froths. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-25 10:37 +0100
                              Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 07:55 -0400
                                Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-25 08:37 -0400
                              Re: Another lying piece of shit anti-linux troll Zeke froths. flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-25 08:28 -0400
                          Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-25 08:05 +0000
                            Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 07:58 -0400
                              Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-25 08:27 -0400
                                Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 10:00 -0400
                                  Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 09:07 -0500
                                    Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass "caged steel" <CS@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 10:24 -0400
                                    Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass Big Steel <Steel98@steel98.com> - 2011-04-25 11:01 -0400
                    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-25 00:28 +0100
                      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-25 10:55 +0100
                        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-25 09:14 -0400
                    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-24 17:36 -0600
                      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> - 2011-04-25 22:23 +0200
                    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:32 -0400
                  Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:48 -0400
                    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 21:21 -0400
                      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> - 2011-04-25 22:37 +0200
                        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-25 22:53 -0400
            Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-23 22:13 -0700
              Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 01:21 -0400
      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-04-23 23:58 +0100
        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 00:58 +0200
          Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-04-24 23:24 +0100
            Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-24 23:40 +0100
        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 22:21 -0400
    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 22:01 +0100
      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:18 -0400
        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 22:05 -0400
    Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-04-23 23:23 +0100
      Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 22:17 -0400
        Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> - 2011-04-24 22:00 +0200
          Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 16:10 -0400
          Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-24 19:40 -0400
            Re: The iPad already used more than Linux computers Clog_-_wog (®) <clog_-_wog@anonimous.eu> - 2011-04-25 12:06 +0200

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#18402 — Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass

"flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote in message 
news:iv0f34bcoxw.1ush121a0gb8d.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:58:48 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Chris" <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ip3a12$k7p$4@inf2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de...
>>> Am Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:19:22 -0400 schrieb Ezekiel:
>>>
>>>> They're not interested in the facts - Dumb Willy is an advocate and
>>>> that's all they need to know.
>>>>
>>>> Not one of the "advocates" will question the bald faced lies from Dumb
>>>> Willy.  But I'm sure we'll see a lot of the bottom feeders come along
>>>> and leg-hump the liar with some "me too" posts.
>>>
>>> What exactly do you expect? Since his claims have been disproven I don't
>>> see any reason why one should write once again that his claims are
>>> disproven.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe Dumb Willy should at least make some pathetically weak effort to
>> backup his claim: Where in the SEC does Microsoft actually say what the 
>> liar
>> claimed?
>>
>> <quote>
>>> In their SEC filing M$ (guess)estimates Linux users at 10-12% & possibly
>>> as much as 14%, & warns that this can affect their business & drop in
>>> revenue.
>>>
>>
>> Here's the official SEC filing Dumb Willy - where *exactly* does 
>> Microsoft
>> say any such thing?
>>
>> 
>> http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000119312511026916/d8k.htm
>>
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Especially when the "anti-advocates" are so hostile to "me too" posts.
>>>
>>
>> Because it's a sad joke when a bunch of idiots all line up and start 
>> doing a
>> "me too" to something that is verifiably wrong.
>
> It's the COLA Linux advocate way.
> What else can they do but LIE for LIEnux?
>
> They certainly can't advocate Linux because once you get past the free
> part, there is little else.
>

He's a proven liar. Just like Rex. He made a claim so let's see him back it 
up.

It's times like this that the safety of hiding behind is kill-files comes in 
very handy. He can make up all sorts of idiotic claims and lies and then 
pretend he doesn't see people calling him on his bullshit.

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#18407 — Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass

Ezekiel wrote:

>He's a proven liar.

You are a proven liar.  Like Flatshit.

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#18417 — Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass

stupid asshole "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:kvvar6tgbsut78o8sfn3ko5she92f5vtjo@4ax.com...
> Ezekiel wrote:
>
>>He's a proven liar.
>
> You are a proven liar.  Like Flatshit.
>

another fine "advocacy" post from the dumbest turd in the tank.

"chrisv" is a documented liar. "chrisv" is a piece of shit.

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#18428 — Re: Another lying piece of shit "advocate" Dumb Willy pulls bullshit claims out of his ass

On 4/25/2011 10:07 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> He's a proven liar.
>
> You are a proven liar.  Like Flatshit.
>

Obviously, there is something wrong with this clown.

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#18207

William Poaster wrote:

> 7 wrote:
> 
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> RonB wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:20:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Same old pipe dream for the WinTrolls. They think of "Desktop Linux"
>>>>> as a single "product" that has to please stockholders quarter by
>>>>> quarter. Unfortunately, for them, Linux distributions are put together
>>>>> by a whole lot of volunteers who aren't about to quit releasing new
>>>>> versions of their distributions just because some toady for Microsoft
>>>>> writes a negative article or two. There's nobody for Gates to buy out
>>>>> or threaten into extinction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Learn to live it, WinTrolls, Desktop Linux isn't going anywhere.
>>>>> Meanwhile embedded Linux, Linux on servers and mobile Linux are eating
>>>>> Microsoft's lunch. You'll have to learn to live with that also.
>>>>
>>>> And, again, if Desktop Linux is so "inconsequential" why do WinTrolls
>>>> rail on about it 24/7 in a Linux Advocacy Newsgroup?
>>> 
>>> Indeed, & why was M$ so worried about "linux having only 1% market
>>> share" that they hired an Open Source Desktop Strategy Czar ("a strong
>>> team member to lead Microsoft’s global desktop competitive strategy as
>>> it relates to open source competitors.”)
>>>  Are the wintrolls so busy chanting their "1%" mantra (in the vain hope
>>> that it's true) that they don't read the news?
>>
>>
>> The simplest of all reason is the most plausible.
>>
>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
>>
>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>> their SEC filing.
> 
> In their SEC filing M$ (guess)estimates Linux users at 10-12% & possibly
> as much as 14%, & warns that this can affect their business & drop in
> revenue.



That explains why the trolls are clocking in with web hits and lies.
What micoshaft can't lie about, the trolls can lie to cover up.
Its their job.

If Linux market share is greater than 7%, then it is declared a 
mainstream OS and every bank, school, company and government
department, retailer, factory owner producing PC is entitled to specify
it and support it without any form of legal challenge.
Previously micoshaft could use its goons and asstroturfers
to attack governments and companies. Now if they tried it,
they can be prosecuted for unethical business practices by anyone
selling Linux and make it stick with huge damages payola.



>> So what they can't count hurts them.
>> It counts against them as disappearing sales.
>>
>> Not a bright future there for windummies no matter
>> how you look at it because their sales are dwindling despite
>> boasting meaningless market share figures figures.
>>
>> All your desktops belong to us says Linux and
>> micohsaftees turn that around and say look at market share.
>> Quoting market share to browser share are meaningless if they
>> are not measuring how many users actually sat in front of computers using
>> a given OS.
>>
>> It should be physical PC desktop usage share which I reckon is at least
>> 7% globally for Linux. Some sort of name must be given to this share so
>> that everyone can agree they are measuring the same thing and how
>> they came to measure it.
>> 7% puts it past the magic 7% threshold for declaring Linux as mainstream
>> which I reckon where its at today.
> 

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#18288

7 wrote:

> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> 7 wrote:
>> 
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:20:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same old pipe dream for the WinTrolls. They think of "Desktop Linux"
>>>>>> as a single "product" that has to please stockholders quarter by
>>>>>> quarter. Unfortunately, for them, Linux distributions are put together
>>>>>> by a whole lot of volunteers who aren't about to quit releasing new
>>>>>> versions of their distributions just because some toady for Microsoft
>>>>>> writes a negative article or two. There's nobody for Gates to buy out
>>>>>> or threaten into extinction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Learn to live it, WinTrolls, Desktop Linux isn't going anywhere.
>>>>>> Meanwhile embedded Linux, Linux on servers and mobile Linux are eating
>>>>>> Microsoft's lunch. You'll have to learn to live with that also.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, again, if Desktop Linux is so "inconsequential" why do WinTrolls
>>>>> rail on about it 24/7 in a Linux Advocacy Newsgroup?
>>>> 
>>>> Indeed, & why was M$ so worried about "linux having only 1% market
>>>> share" that they hired an Open Source Desktop Strategy Czar ("a strong
>>>> team member to lead Microsoft’s global desktop competitive strategy as
>>>> it relates to open source competitors.”)
>>>>  Are the wintrolls so busy chanting their "1%" mantra (in the vain hope
>>>> that it's true) that they don't read the news?
>>>
>>>
>>> The simplest of all reason is the most plausible.
>>>
>>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
>>>
>>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>>> their SEC filing.
>> 
>> In their SEC filing M$ (guess)estimates Linux users at 10-12% & possibly
>> as much as 14%, & warns that this can affect their business & drop in
>> revenue.
>
>
>
> That explains why the trolls are clocking in with web hits and lies.
> What micoshaft can't lie about, the trolls can lie to cover up.
> Its their job.

Yup. No doubt they're frothing, & trying to dispute M$'s *own* figures
to the SEC. So if M$ was lying, perhaps *they* (the wintrolls) should
inform the SEC about the company *they* supposedly support. 
They must also have missed the bit about M$ hiring an Open Source
Desktop Strategy Czar to lead Microsoft’s global desktop competitive
strategy regarding open source competitors.
Really, are they going to that expense if Linux *was* only at 1%! 
Maybe some of these wintrolls are some of the 5,000 employees M$ laid
off due to (what M$ themselves blame as) Open Source success. 

In any event these wintrolls must be an embarressment to the company
they purport to support.

 <snip>

-- 
Never violate the Prime Directory! \
"Microsoft has vast resources, literally billions of dollars in cash, or liquid assets reserves. 
Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the premise of market dominance with low-quality goods." 
-- Former White House adviser Richard A. Clarke --

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#18368

On 4/25/2011 5:55 AM, William Poaster wrote:

> Yup. No doubt they're frothing,&  trying to dispute M$'s *own* figures
> to the SEC.

Which SEC filing is that, Dumb Willie?



> Maybe some of these wintrolls are some of the 5,000 employees M$ laid
> off due to (what M$ themselves blame as) Open Source success.

Another bullshit lie.  Another day in cola la-la land.

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#18210

on 4/24/2011, William Poaster supposed :
> 7 wrote:
>
>> William Poaster wrote:
>> 
>>> RonB wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:20:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Same old pipe dream for the WinTrolls. They think of "Desktop Linux" as
>>>>> a single "product" that has to please stockholders quarter by quarter.
>>>>> Unfortunately, for them, Linux distributions are put together by a whole
>>>>> lot of volunteers who aren't about to quit releasing new versions of
>>>>> their distributions just because some toady for Microsoft writes a
>>>>> negative article or two. There's nobody for Gates to buy out or threaten
>>>>> into extinction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Learn to live it, WinTrolls, Desktop Linux isn't going anywhere.
>>>>> Meanwhile embedded Linux, Linux on servers and mobile Linux are eating
>>>>> Microsoft's lunch. You'll have to learn to live with that also.
>>>> 
>>>> And, again, if Desktop Linux is so "inconsequential" why do WinTrolls
>>>> rail on about it 24/7 in a Linux Advocacy Newsgroup?
>>> 
>>> Indeed, & why was M$ so worried about "linux having only 1% market
>>> share" that they hired an Open Source Desktop Strategy Czar ("a strong
>>> team member to lead Microsoft’s global desktop competitive strategy as
>>> it relates to open source competitors.”)
>>>  Are the wintrolls so busy chanting their "1%" mantra (in the vain hope
>>> that it's true) that they don't read the news?
>> 
>> 
>> The simplest of all reason is the most plausible.
>> 
>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
>> 
>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>> their SEC filing. 
>
> In their SEC filing M$ (guess)estimates Linux users at 10-12% & possibly
> as much as 14%, & warns that this can affect their business & drop in
> revenue.
>

LOL.. you got that little lie from Rex.

-- 
Tom Shelton

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#18523

"Tom Shelton" <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> schreef in bericht 
news:ip2c5p$rf4$1@dont-email.me...
> on 4/24/2011, William Poaster supposed :
>> 7 wrote:
>>
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:20:55 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same old pipe dream for the WinTrolls. They think of "Desktop Linux" 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a single "product" that has to please stockholders quarter by 
>>>>>> quarter.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, for them, Linux distributions are put together by a 
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> lot of volunteers who aren't about to quit releasing new versions of
>>>>>> their distributions just because some toady for Microsoft writes a
>>>>>> negative article or two. There's nobody for Gates to buy out or 
>>>>>> threaten
>>>>>> into extinction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Learn to live it, WinTrolls, Desktop Linux isn't going anywhere.
>>>>>> Meanwhile embedded Linux, Linux on servers and mobile Linux are 
>>>>>> eating
>>>>>> Microsoft's lunch. You'll have to learn to live with that also.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, again, if Desktop Linux is so "inconsequential" why do WinTrolls
>>>>> rail on about it 24/7 in a Linux Advocacy Newsgroup?
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, & why was M$ so worried about "linux having only 1% market
>>>> share" that they hired an Open Source Desktop Strategy Czar ("a strong
>>>> team member to lead Microsoft’s global desktop competitive strategy as
>>>> it relates to open source competitors.”)
>>>>  Are the wintrolls so busy chanting their "1%" mantra (in the vain hope
>>>> that it's true) that they don't read the news?
>>>
>>>
>>> The simplest of all reason is the most plausible.
>>>
>>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
>>>
>>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>>> their SEC filing.
>>
>> In their SEC filing M$ (guess)estimates Linux users at 10-12% & possibly
>> as much as 14%, & warns that this can affect their business & drop in
>> revenue.
>>
>
> LOL.. you got that little lie from Rex.
>
Yup, maybe from a master class LIEing for LIEnux by Rex, main participants 
"7", Willy, chrisv, Rasker, Goobler, Liarmutt........... 

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#18224

On 4/24/2011 6:06 PM, William Poaster wrote:

> In their SEC filing M$ (guess)estimates Linux users at 10-12%&  possibly
> as much as 14%,&  warns that this can affect their business&  drop in
> revenue.


Which SEC filing is that, Dumb Willie?

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#18228

On 4/24/2011 3:38 PM, 7 wrote:

> They just don't know how to count Linux.


Nor do you, or any other cola "advocates".  That's why you liars concoct 
numbers out of thin air.



> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
> their SEC filing.
>
> So what they can't count hurts them.
> It counts against them as disappearing sales.
>
> Not a bright future there for windummies no matter
> how you look at it because their sales are dwindling despite
> boasting meaningless market share figures figures.
>
> All your desktops belong to us says Linux and
> micohsaftees turn that around and say look at market share.
> Quoting market share to browser share are meaningless if they
> are not measuring how many users actually sat in front of computers using
> a given OS.
>
> It should be physical PC desktop usage share which I reckon is at least 7%
> globally for Linux.

How do you "reckon" this figure, Virgin Fraud.



> Some sort of name must be given to this share so
> that everyone can agree they are measuring the same thing and how
> they came to measure it.
> 7% puts it past the magic 7% threshold for declaring Linux as mainstream
> which I reckon where its at today.


On the desktop it's just an amateurish counterculture product.

On servers it's definitely mainstream.

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#18241

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:48:01 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 4/24/2011 3:38 PM, 7 wrote:
> 
>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
> 
> 
> Nor do you, or any other cola "advocates".  That's why you liars concoct 
> numbers out of thin air.
> 
> 
> 
>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>> their SEC filing.
>>
>> So what they can't count hurts them.
>> It counts against them as disappearing sales.
>>
>> Not a bright future there for windummies no matter
>> how you look at it because their sales are dwindling despite
>> boasting meaningless market share figures figures.
>>
>> All your desktops belong to us says Linux and
>> micohsaftees turn that around and say look at market share.
>> Quoting market share to browser share are meaningless if they
>> are not measuring how many users actually sat in front of computers using
>> a given OS.
>>
>> It should be physical PC desktop usage share which I reckon is at least 7%
>> globally for Linux.
> 
> How do you "reckon" this figure, Virgin Fraud.
> 
> 
> 
>> Some sort of name must be given to this share so
>> that everyone can agree they are measuring the same thing and how
>> they came to measure it.
>> 7% puts it past the magic 7% threshold for declaring Linux as mainstream
>> which I reckon where its at today.
> 
> 
> On the desktop it's just an amateurish counterculture product.
> 
> On servers it's definitely mainstream.

I agree.
Mainstream in embedded devices as well only most people don't know, or
care.

-- 
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#18527

"flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> schreef in bericht 
news:c5f9l29sjyk$.agcqelaguzum.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:48:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 4/24/2011 3:38 PM, 7 wrote:
>>
>>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
>>
>>
>> Nor do you, or any other cola "advocates".  That's why you liars concoct
>> numbers out of thin air.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>>> their SEC filing.
>>>
>>> So what they can't count hurts them.
>>> It counts against them as disappearing sales.
>>>
>>> Not a bright future there for windummies no matter
>>> how you look at it because their sales are dwindling despite
>>> boasting meaningless market share figures figures.
>>>
>>> All your desktops belong to us says Linux and
>>> micohsaftees turn that around and say look at market share.
>>> Quoting market share to browser share are meaningless if they
>>> are not measuring how many users actually sat in front of computers 
>>> using
>>> a given OS.
>>>
>>> It should be physical PC desktop usage share which I reckon is at least 
>>> 7%
>>> globally for Linux.
>>
>> How do you "reckon" this figure, Virgin Fraud.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Some sort of name must be given to this share so
>>> that everyone can agree they are measuring the same thing and how
>>> they came to measure it.
>>> 7% puts it past the magic 7% threshold for declaring Linux as mainstream
>>> which I reckon where its at today.
>>
>>
>> On the desktop it's just an amateurish counterculture product.
>>
>> On servers it's definitely mainstream.
>
> I agree.
> Mainstream in embedded devices as well only most people don't know, or
> care.
>
My car audio player seems to have Linux embedded, even the vendor didn't 
know it ;-) 

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#18585

On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:37:26 +0200, Clogwog wrote:

> "flatfish+++" <flatfish@marianatrench.com> schreef in bericht 
> news:c5f9l29sjyk$.agcqelaguzum.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:48:01 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/24/2011 3:38 PM, 7 wrote:
>>>
>>>> They just don't know how to count Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nor do you, or any other cola "advocates".  That's why you liars concoct
>>> numbers out of thin air.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If they did, then they would be able to put that into
>>>> their SEC filing.
>>>>
>>>> So what they can't count hurts them.
>>>> It counts against them as disappearing sales.
>>>>
>>>> Not a bright future there for windummies no matter
>>>> how you look at it because their sales are dwindling despite
>>>> boasting meaningless market share figures figures.
>>>>
>>>> All your desktops belong to us says Linux and
>>>> micohsaftees turn that around and say look at market share.
>>>> Quoting market share to browser share are meaningless if they
>>>> are not measuring how many users actually sat in front of computers 
>>>> using
>>>> a given OS.
>>>>
>>>> It should be physical PC desktop usage share which I reckon is at least 
>>>> 7%
>>>> globally for Linux.
>>>
>>> How do you "reckon" this figure, Virgin Fraud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Some sort of name must be given to this share so
>>>> that everyone can agree they are measuring the same thing and how
>>>> they came to measure it.
>>>> 7% puts it past the magic 7% threshold for declaring Linux as mainstream
>>>> which I reckon where its at today.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the desktop it's just an amateurish counterculture product.
>>>
>>> On servers it's definitely mainstream.
>>
>> I agree.
>> Mainstream in embedded devices as well only most people don't know, or
>> care.
>>
> My car audio player seems to have Linux embedded, even the vendor didn't 
> know it ;-)

So does my Sony plasma TV.
The book has all the GPL stuff written in at the end.

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#18022

RonB stated in post iovmsn$eo3$2@dont-email.me on 4/23/11 4:20 PM:

...
>> In other news, one of the cells on my 6 cell battery in my netbook seems
>> to have failed, as I can only charge up to 87% now. In practical terms,
>> I've lost about an hour of use when using the battery: down to a little
>> over 4 hours now. I'm trying to decide between buying a new 9-cell
>> battery to replace it or buying one of System 76's netbooks.
> 
> Same old pipe dream for the WinTrolls. They think of "Desktop Linux" as a
> single "product" that has to please stockholders quarter by quarter.

Who thinks this?  I bet you made it up.

> Unfortunately, for them, Linux distributions are put together by a whole
> lot of volunteers who aren't about to quit releasing new versions of their
> distributions just because some toady for Microsoft writes a negative
> article or two. There's nobody for Gates to buy out or threaten into
> extinction.
> 
> Learn to live it, WinTrolls, Desktop Linux isn't going anywhere. Meanwhile
> embedded Linux, Linux on servers and mobile Linux are eating Microsoft's
> lunch. You'll have to learn to live with that also.

What a double standard you have.  Wow.


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#18023

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:13:38 -0700, Snit wrote:

> RonB stated in post iovmsn$eo3$2@dont-email.me on 4/23/11 4:20 PM:
> 
> ...
>>> In other news, one of the cells on my 6 cell battery in my netbook seems
>>> to have failed, as I can only charge up to 87% now. In practical terms,
>>> I've lost about an hour of use when using the battery: down to a little
>>> over 4 hours now. I'm trying to decide between buying a new 9-cell
>>> battery to replace it or buying one of System 76's netbooks.
>> 
>> Same old pipe dream for the WinTrolls. They think of "Desktop Linux" as a
>> single "product" that has to please stockholders quarter by quarter.
> 
> Who thinks this?  I bet you made it up.

This is the classic Linux loon bob and weave.

They try to claim that Linux isn't under the same constraints as say
commercial products, which is true.

But at the same time, their model of zero accountability has obviously
failed.

Being free for 20+ years with a market share of 1 percent of the desktop
and falling is really nothing to be proud of.

In fact, it goes to further prove what a dismal failure desktop Linux
has been.

Maybe that's why so many Linux advocates seem to be miserable people?

Following a loser for 20 years has got to take it's toll.


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#17967

On Saturday 23 April 2011 20:24 Hadron wrote:

> "Clog_-_wog (®)" <clog_-_wog@anonimous.eu> writes:
> 
>> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/04/20/ipad-used-more-than-linux-computers/
>>
>> "We noticed an interesting thing the other day that we'd like to share 
with
>> you. However, if you're a Linux enthusiast, you may want to stop reading 
now."
>>
>> LMFAO
> 
> 
> Hmm, I see Linux has dropped to 0.7%. Not good.

It wouldn't be good - if it were true :-)

I don't think it's dropped at all, hadron.
I think that the "problem" is that you (and others here) are perhaps more 
used to seeing statistics from WebApplications than you are from 
StatCounter.

They work in quite different ways.

I prefer StatCounter myself, because they give you "raw" data.
The disadvantage though is that their "average", from which they get their 
"worldwide" figure, is just that - and it's very dependent on the number of 
contributing sites from each country.  For example, their sample size from 
the U.K. is about the same as their sample size from China and India 
combined!
Its "worldwide" figure is therefore (imo) a bit suspect.  Its figures for 
North America and its figures for Europe though can be quite illuminating.

By contrast, NetApplications "factors" (weights) figures from each country, 
depending in the estimated "Internet Population" of each country to produce 
its Worldwide figure.  If you don't want to go into things too deeply, it's 
probably the better rough-and-ready guess at worldwide figures.

I think it's important though not to mix the two!

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#17969

bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> On Saturday 23 April 2011 20:24 Hadron wrote:
>
>> "Clog_-_wog (®)" <clog_-_wog@anonimous.eu> writes:
>> 
>>> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/04/20/ipad-used-more-than-linux-computers/
>>>
>>> "We noticed an interesting thing the other day that we'd like to share 
> with
>>> you. However, if you're a Linux enthusiast, you may want to stop reading 
> now."
>>>
>>> LMFAO
>> 
>> 
>> Hmm, I see Linux has dropped to 0.7%. Not good.
>
> It wouldn't be good - if it were true :-)
>
> I don't think it's dropped at all, hadron.
> I think that the "problem" is that you (and others here) are perhaps more 
> used to seeing statistics from WebApplications than you are from 
> StatCounter.
>
> They work in quite different ways.


I know how they work. You dont. And its all relative.

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#18193

On Saturday 23 April 2011 23:58 Hadron wrote:

> bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> On Saturday 23 April 2011 20:24 Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> "Clog_-_wog (®)" <clog_-_wog@anonimous.eu> writes:
>>> 
>>>> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/04/20/ipad-used-more-than-linux-
computers/
>>>>
>>>> "We noticed an interesting thing the other day that we'd like to share 
>> with
>>>> you. However, if you're a Linux enthusiast, you may want to stop 
reading 
>> now."
>>>>
>>>> LMFAO
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmm, I see Linux has dropped to 0.7%. Not good.
>>
>> It wouldn't be good - if it were true :-)
>>
>> I don't think it's dropped at all, hadron.
>> I think that the "problem" is that you (and others here) are perhaps more 
>> used to seeing statistics from WebApplications than you are from 
>> StatCounter.
>>
>> They work in quite different ways.
> 
> 
> I know how they work. You dont. And its all relative.

Dear God!
I make it that there was precisely 39 seconds between my post and this 
response.
Never mind that the response is typical hadron rubbish - let's remember what 
Samuel Johnson said when comparing women preaching with a dog walking on its 
hind legs:
  "It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all"!

Thirty nine seconds!
 - to receive, read, digest, compose and type a reply, and send!
I take my hat off to you hadron, and in 39 seconds it would be quite 
unrealistic of me to expect any sense from you....
... though come to think, in 39 hours it would be unrealistic of me to 
expect any sense from you.... but 39 seconds is remarkable nonetheless!

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#18195

bbgruff wrote:

> On Saturday 23 April 2011 23:58 Hadron wrote:
>
>> bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> 
>>> On Saturday 23 April 2011 20:24 Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Clog_-_wog (®)" <clog_-_wog@anonimous.eu> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/04/20/ipad-used-more-than-linux-
> computers/
>>>>>
>>>>> "We noticed an interesting thing the other day that we'd like to share 
>>> with
>>>>> you. However, if you're a Linux enthusiast, you may want to stop 
> reading 
>>> now."
>>>>>
>>>>> LMFAO
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, I see Linux has dropped to 0.7%. Not good.
>>>
>>> It wouldn't be good - if it were true :-)
>>>
>>> I don't think it's dropped at all, hadron.
>>> I think that the "problem" is that you (and others here) are perhaps more 
>>> used to seeing statistics from WebApplications than you are from 
>>> StatCounter.
>>>
>>> They work in quite different ways.
>> 
>> 
>> I know how they work. You dont. And its all relative.
>
> Dear God!
> I make it that there was precisely 39 seconds between my post and this 
> response.
> Never mind that the response is typical hadron rubbish - let's remember what 
> Samuel Johnson said when comparing women preaching with a dog walking on its 
> hind legs:
>   "It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all"!
>
> Thirty nine seconds!
>  - to receive, read, digest, compose and type a reply, and send!
> I take my hat off to you hadron, and in 39 seconds it would be quite 
> unrealistic of me to expect any sense from you....
> ... though come to think, in 39 hours it would be unrealistic of me to 
> expect any sense from you.... but 39 seconds is remarkable nonetheless!

A world record! LOL

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