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  Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 21:55 +0000
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 22:50 +0000
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:03 -0400
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-22 21:09 -0400
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 22:00 -0400
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-23 06:20 +0000
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-23 07:05 +0000
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-23 07:13 -0400
          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 09:52 -0400
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:38 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 06:16 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 03:30 -0400
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 16:58 +0000
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 13:19 -0400
                      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 13:35 -0400
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 14:22 -0400
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-24 18:41 +0000
                          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 14:50 -0400
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-24 19:08 +0000
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 15:32 -0400
                                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-25 15:25 +0000
                                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 12:39 -0400
                                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 16:36 -0400
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-24 18:51 +0000
                      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 00:20 +0000
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 20:58 -0400
                          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:52 +0000
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 03:10 -0400
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 05:44 -0400
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 03:18 -0400
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:52 +0000
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 17:00 +0000
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:53 -0400
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-25 15:35 +0000
                          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:45 +0000
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-26 15:38 +0000
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-27 19:50 +1100
                                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 15:52 +0000
                                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-28 19:43 +1100
          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-23 23:37 +0000
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:54 -0400
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 17:14 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 13:21 -0400
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 15:59 -0400
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 00:45 +0000
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 21:44 -0400
                      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:48 +0000
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:52 -0400
                          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-25 13:02 +0000
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 09:16 -0400
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 17:30 -0400
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:41 +0000
                          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:37 +0000
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:33 -0400
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-26 12:45 +0000
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 17:13 +0000
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-26 17:21 +0000
                                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-27 07:25 -0500
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:31 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 20:38 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:27 -0400
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 23:36 +0000
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 21:34 -0400
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 07:05 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 12:04 +0000
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-26 19:43 +0000
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:46 -0400
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:18 +0000
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 00:29 +0000
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-22 21:09 -0400
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:08 -0400
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-23 07:08 -0400
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 07:17 -0400
          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 15:10 -0400
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 00:36 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 06:21 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 11:15 -0400
                  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:48 +0000
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 16:59 -0400
                    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 01:19 +0000
                      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:15 -0400
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:33 +0000
                          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 03:13 +0000
                            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:31 +0000
                              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-27 19:57 +1100
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 03:07 +0000
                      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:26 +0000
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 06:14 -0400
                        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 03:46 +0000
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-23 23:38 +0000
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-03 20:32 +0000
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-04 01:47 +0000

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#687939

On 2025-03-23 19:37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 07:13:59 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Well, users seem to be happy with their Snapdragon-equipped machines
>> regardless of what the press says. I'm getting the feeling that this is
>> overblown, designed to make Microsoft look bad in Apple's favour.
> 
> If that were true, we should be seeing new models entering the market.
> Isn’t it getting on to about nine months since the last flurry of model
> introductions?

Considering how there is not yet a successor to the Snapdragon X Elite 
available, I don't see why they would feel the need to produce new 
models. Let the company release a new processor, and the manufacturers 
will follow with computers based on it. As it is, Snapdragon is playing 
catch-up to Apple's ARM chips.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#687958

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 08:54:49 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Considering how there is not yet a successor to the Snapdragon X Elite
> available, I don't see why they would feel the need to produce new
> models. Let the company release a new processor, and the manufacturers
> will follow with computers based on it. As it is, Snapdragon is playing
> catch-up to Apple's ARM chips.

https://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomms-exclusivity-deal-is-about-to-end-
with-some-big-implications-on-the-horizon/

The Microsoft/Qualcomm deal damped down the competition. AMD was working 
on an ARM processor that was supposed to hit the market this year but I 
haven't heard anything about it lately.

Nvidia was supposed to have a consumer processor out this fall but I don't 
know what backing out of Arm implies.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-cuts-stake-arm-holdings-invests-
chinas-weride-2025-02-14/


That AI squirrel is so tempting to chase.

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#687962

On 2025-03-24 1:14 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 08:54:49 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Considering how there is not yet a successor to the Snapdragon X Elite
>> available, I don't see why they would feel the need to produce new
>> models. Let the company release a new processor, and the manufacturers
>> will follow with computers based on it. As it is, Snapdragon is playing
>> catch-up to Apple's ARM chips.
> 
> https://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomms-exclusivity-deal-is-about-to-end-
> with-some-big-implications-on-the-horizon/
> 
> The Microsoft/Qualcomm deal damped down the competition. AMD was working
> on an ARM processor that was supposed to hit the market this year but I
> haven't heard anything about it lately.
> 
> Nvidia was supposed to have a consumer processor out this fall but I don't
> know what backing out of Arm implies.
> 
> https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-cuts-stake-arm-holdings-invests-
> chinas-weride-2025-02-14/
> 
> 
> That AI squirrel is so tempting to chase.

I don't need the AI myself but I'm already seeing some teachers 
clamoring about Co-Pilot. I'm getting the feeling that they're using the 
tool to create exercises or exams based on material found in an online 
textbook. It's actually not a bad use, but it only highlights the fact 
that all of us could and probably will be replaced by AI in the future.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#687983

On Mon, 3/24/2025 1:21 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-03-24 1:14 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 08:54:49 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Considering how there is not yet a successor to the Snapdragon X Elite
>>> available, I don't see why they would feel the need to produce new
>>> models. Let the company release a new processor, and the manufacturers
>>> will follow with computers based on it. As it is, Snapdragon is playing
>>> catch-up to Apple's ARM chips.
>>
>> https://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomms-exclusivity-deal-is-about-to-end-
>> with-some-big-implications-on-the-horizon/
>>
>> The Microsoft/Qualcomm deal damped down the competition. AMD was working
>> on an ARM processor that was supposed to hit the market this year but I
>> haven't heard anything about it lately.
>>
>> Nvidia was supposed to have a consumer processor out this fall but I don't
>> know what backing out of Arm implies.
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-cuts-stake-arm-holdings-invests-
>> chinas-weride-2025-02-14/
>>
>>
>> That AI squirrel is so tempting to chase.
> 
> I don't need the AI myself but I'm already seeing some teachers clamoring about Co-Pilot. I'm getting the feeling that they're using the tool to create exercises or exams based on material found in an online textbook. It's actually not a bad use, but it only highlights the fact that all of us could and probably will be replaced by AI in the future.
> 

That can't happen at the current level of achievement.

And AI will have a strange delivery in any case.

If anyone makes an AI breakthrough, they can't release it!
It will have military defense implications, and will have
to be hidden. You can't be delivering a "FOSS version of Skynet for PC".

For the time being, we will be seeing the shovel-ware versions.

In that sense, your job can't be replaced, until there
are two million robots with precise gunsights "and a plan".
Once the skies are buzzing with smart bombs, you'll be
receiving the "8K version of ChessMaster" you always wanted :-)

   Paul

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#688018

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 13:21:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I don't need the AI myself but I'm already seeing some teachers
> clamoring about Co-Pilot. I'm getting the feeling that they're using the
> tool to create exercises or exams based on material found in an online
> textbook. It's actually not a bad use, but it only highlights the fact
> that all of us could and probably will be replaced by AI in the future.

https://sierra.ai/customers/weightwatchers

A friend's wife was replaced by a chat-bot. It was a good gig while it 
lasted, work remotely smoothing ruffled feathers of unhappy clients. The 
friend is a project manager and can see the handwriting on the wall for 
that career too.

In a way it's come full circle. I've often thought that computers have 
created more work than they have saved. Now they have figured out how to 
eliminate all the busy-work they created.

I once visited a museum that highlighted the household labor saving 
devices that started appearing in the late 19th century. The exhibit also 
pointed out that housewives with more free time on their hands dreamed up 
new ways to fill it. (hopefully without chardonnay and pills).

Nothing has changed. I've seen beautiful decorations done by Native 
Americans using dyed porcupine quills before the whites showed up with 
beads. They obviously weren't struggling for existence. After commercial 
beads became available and they didn't have to spend time chasing 
porcupines, they probably decorated even more stuff.

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#688037

On 2025-03-24 8:45 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 13:21:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> I don't need the AI myself but I'm already seeing some teachers
>> clamoring about Co-Pilot. I'm getting the feeling that they're using the
>> tool to create exercises or exams based on material found in an online
>> textbook. It's actually not a bad use, but it only highlights the fact
>> that all of us could and probably will be replaced by AI in the future.
> 
> https://sierra.ai/customers/weightwatchers
> 
> A friend's wife was replaced by a chat-bot. It was a good gig while it
> lasted, work remotely smoothing ruffled feathers of unhappy clients. The
> friend is a project manager and can see the handwriting on the wall for
> that career too.
> 
> In a way it's come full circle. I've often thought that computers have
> created more work than they have saved. Now they have figured out how to
> eliminate all the busy-work they created.
> 
> I once visited a museum that highlighted the household labor saving
> devices that started appearing in the late 19th century. The exhibit also
> pointed out that housewives with more free time on their hands dreamed up
> new ways to fill it. (hopefully without chardonnay and pills).
> 
> Nothing has changed. I've seen beautiful decorations done by Native
> Americans using dyed porcupine quills before the whites showed up with
> beads. They obviously weren't struggling for existence. After commercial
> beads became available and they didn't have to spend time chasing
> porcupines, they probably decorated even more stuff.

The reality is that AI has a lot more patience than we humans do and, 
for managing a project or a classroom, they're always going to be more 
effective in staying at the customer's level. Unlike me, the AI will be 
able to produce worksheets which are at a student's exact level on the 
fly. Provided everyone is sitting in front of a computer to learn, they 
can each learn at their own speed yet end up at the same objective. 
Meanwhile, a teacher has to try to teach twenty-five or more students of 
different levels the same thing at the same time, inevitably catering to 
the lowest common denominator at all times.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688081

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:44:55 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Meanwhile, a teacher has to try to teach twenty-five or more students of
> different levels the same thing at the same time, inevitably catering to
> the lowest common denominator at all times.

In my very brief career teaching math and science the school system used 
homogeneous groupings with classes A through D. Everyone understood D 
stood for Dumb but the same curriculum was used for all. 

The D kids were basically aging out until they could get their working 
papers and could have profited from something less abstract than learning 
about sexagesimal numeric systems. They had enough trouble functioning in 
base 10.

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#688109

On 2025-03-25 02:48, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:44:55 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Meanwhile, a teacher has to try to teach twenty-five or more students of
>> different levels the same thing at the same time, inevitably catering to
>> the lowest common denominator at all times.
> 
> In my very brief career teaching math and science the school system used
> homogeneous groupings with classes A through D. Everyone understood D
> stood for Dumb but the same curriculum was used for all.
> 
> The D kids were basically aging out until they could get their working
> papers and could have profited from something less abstract than learning
> about sexagesimal numeric systems. They had enough trouble functioning in
> base 10.

I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I 
honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they 
finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so 
many things are becoming automated.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688113

CrudeSausage wrote:

[snip]

> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I 
> honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they 
> finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so 
> many things are becoming automated.


Cannon fodder?  I think Trump is arranging that.

Road mending and all the other manual jobs that AI can't do?




-- 
Graham J

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#688114

On 2025-03-25 09:02, Graham J wrote:
> CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I 
>> honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they 
>> finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so 
>> many things are becoming automated.
> 
> 
> Cannon fodder?  I think Trump is arranging that.
> 
> Road mending and all the other manual jobs that AI can't do?

I would not mind them doing very hard labour, to be honest. It will make 
up for the fact that they do little to nothing now.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688140

On Tue, 3/25/2025 9:16 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2025-03-25 09:02, Graham J wrote:
>> CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so many things are becoming automated.
>>
>>
>> Cannon fodder?  I think Trump is arranging that.
>>
>> Road mending and all the other manual jobs that AI can't do?
> 
> I would not mind them doing very hard labour, to be honest. It will make up for the fact that they do little to nothing now.
> 

Did you say road repair ?

   https://www.robotiz3d.com/

     "Our Mission

      To help build a safe and sustainable road infrastructure through
      intelligent, automated maintenance and repair."

Already, your students don't have jobs.

They had better be good at assembling robots.

   Paul

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#688164

On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 13:02:45 +0000, Graham J wrote:

> CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I
>> honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they
>> finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so
>> many things are becoming automated.
> 
> 
> Cannon fodder?  I think Trump is arranging that.

That worked better when there was a draft. The volunteer military upped 
their standards so they're having trouble fulfilling their recruiting 
quotas since the available warm bodies are too dumb, fat, or drugged to 
make the cut.

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#688163

On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:52:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I
> honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they
> finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so
> many things are becoming automated.

At least around here 'grocery bagger' is vanishing as a career option. 
Most of the ckeckout lanes are unmanned. I had to use one this week 
because the self service kiosks don't handle the CostCo refund checks.

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#688178

On 2025-03-25 22:37, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:52:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I
>> honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they
>> finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so
>> many things are becoming automated.
> 
> At least around here 'grocery bagger' is vanishing as a career option.
> Most of the ckeckout lanes are unmanned. I had to use one this week
> because the self service kiosks don't handle the CostCo refund checks.

My wife and I refuse to use the unmanned checkout lanes. Most of the 
time, the machine has some problem and we need the assistance of the fat 
black woman nearby anyway. You'll see them coming four or five times to 
our station because the machine had a heart attack and they need to 
enter a code. Considering these problems, and the fact that we're not 
the only ones having them, they might want to rethink removing human 
cashiers.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688180

CrudeSausage wrote:

[snip]

> 
> My wife and I refuse to use the unmanned checkout lanes. Most of the 
> time, the machine has some problem and we need the assistance of the fat 
> black woman nearby anyway. You'll see them coming four or five times to 
> our station because the machine had a heart attack and they need to 
> enter a code. Considering these problems, and the fact that we're not 
> the only ones having them, they might want to rethink removing human 
> cashiers.

Here in the UK they seem to work OK.  During the evening and overnight 
there's just one operator on duty monitoring about 20 unmanned 
checkouts.  This person is not often called upon to do anything with the 
till - it all works fine.

Mostly the shop is full of staff re-stocking the shelves.

-- 
Graham J

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#688187

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 08:33:50 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> My wife and I refuse to use the unmanned checkout lanes. Most of the
> time, the machine has some problem and we need the assistance of the fat
> black woman nearby anyway. You'll see them coming four or five times to
> our station because the machine had a heart attack and they need to
> enter a code. Considering these problems, and the fact that we're not
> the only ones having them, they might want to rethink removing human
> cashiers.

I don't seem to have those problems and we're a bit short of fat black 
women here.

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#688188

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 08:33:50 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

[snip]

> My wife and I refuse to use the unmanned checkout lanes. Most of the
> time, the machine has some problem and we need the assistance of the fat
> black woman nearby anyway. You'll see them coming four or five times to
> our station because the machine had a heart attack and they need to
> enter a code. Considering these problems, and the fact that we're not
> the only ones having them, they might want to rethink removing human
> cashiers.

I stopped using the self checkout at Kroger because there are too many 
problems. The machine is supposed to accept coupons, but usually won't. 
Several times, when I was ready to pay, the machine called for help. It 
also complained when I removed a full bag of groceries.

I haven't had any problems with the machines at Wal-Mart.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"We've learned how to move under radar in the cover of the night with
shrubbery strapped to our helmets," [Ralph Reed, executive director of
Christian Coalition]

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#688229 — Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon

Mark Lloyd wrote:

>I stopped using the self checkout at Kroger because there are too many 
>problems. The machine is supposed to accept coupons, but usually won't. 
>Several times, when I was ready to pay, the machine called for help. It 
>also complained when I removed a full bag of groceries.
>
>I haven't had any problems with the machines at Wal-Mart.

Well, Wal-Mart (at least the ones that I use) don't verify weight.  If
you want, you can scan and move directly into your cart.  This
eliminates the dreaded "unexpected item in bagging area" alert.

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#688199

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-03-25 22:37, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:52:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a lot of those D classes, so I know exactly what you mean. I
>>> honestly can't imagine what these people will be good for when they
>>> finally decide to enter the job market, especially at a time when so
>>> many things are becoming automated.
>> 
>> At least around here 'grocery bagger' is vanishing as a career option.
>> Most of the ckeckout lanes are unmanned. I had to use one this week
>> because the self service kiosks don't handle the CostCo refund checks.
> 
> My wife and I refuse to use the unmanned checkout lanes. Most of the 
> time, the machine has some problem and we need the assistance of the fat 
> black woman nearby anyway. You'll see them coming four or five times to 
> our station because the machine had a heart attack and they need to 
> enter a code. Considering these problems, and the fact that we're not 
> the only ones having them, they might want to rethink removing human 
> cashiers.

Your mistake is assuming that supermarkets want you to have a good
experience. In actual fact they've saved on the salaries of half a dozen
staff. 

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#687992

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 08:54:49 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> On 2025-03-23 19:37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 07:13:59 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, users seem to be happy with their Snapdragon-equipped
>>> machines regardless of what the press says. I'm getting the
>>> feeling that this is overblown, designed to make Microsoft look
>>> bad in Apple's favour.
>> 
>> If that were true, we should be seeing new models entering the market.
>> Isn’t it getting on to about nine months since the last flurry of model
>> introductions?
> 
> Considering how there is not yet a successor to the Snapdragon X Elite 
> available, I don't see why they would feel the need to produce new 
> models. Let the company release a new processor, and the manufacturers 
> will follow with computers based on it. As it is, Snapdragon is playing 
> catch-up to Apple's ARM chips.

Didn’t Qualcomm promise to have cheaper chips for Windows-on-ARM about 
now?

And why is everybody waiting for Qualcomm, anyway? Isn’t one of the key 
benefits of ARM the fact that it is available from multiple sources?

But not for Windows, it seems.

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