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| Started by | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| First post | 2017-03-24 23:55 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-03-28 11:09 -0400 |
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Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-24 23:55 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-24 23:08 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 08:58 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 09:35 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 09:49 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-25 15:33 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-25 06:47 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 09:24 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-25 12:49 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 13:37 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-26 07:43 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 07:11 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 09:25 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 10:49 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 09:56 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 11:07 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 10:27 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 11:53 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 10:45 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 13:43 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 11:59 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 14:06 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 13:34 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 18:13 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 15:25 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 20:23 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 17:46 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 10:39 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 13:46 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 13:49 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 18:06 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 15:23 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 10:46 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-25 15:33 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 14:37 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 14:00 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-25 22:07 +0100
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-25 14:31 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 18:17 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-25 18:05 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-27 13:11 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-27 12:49 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 11:12 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 10:45 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-03-28 16:41 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 11:56 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-03-28 16:58 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:14 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-03-28 17:21 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:48 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:12 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 14:21 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 13:14 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-28 20:18 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:16 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 12:39 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:41 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-28 14:46 -0400
CostFree apps. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-03-27 16:44 -0700
Re: CostFree apps. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 11:14 -0400
Re: CostFree apps. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 10:49 -0500
Re: CostFree apps. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-28 12:10 -0400
Re: CostFree apps. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 11:22 -0500
Re: CostFree apps. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-28 14:08 -0400
Re: CostFree apps. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 13:55 -0500
Re: CostFree apps. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-28 16:38 -0400
Re: CostFree apps. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-28 14:16 -0700
CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-03-28 14:48 -0700
Re: CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-03-28 15:24 -0700
Re: CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-29 12:12 -0400
CopyRightTrolls can't blackmail me. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-03-29 13:34 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 10:12 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-25 11:51 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 09:33 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 08:22 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-03-27 15:31 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:53 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-27 17:33 +0200
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-03-27 16:47 +0100
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 10:50 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-27 12:10 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:41 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:35 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-27 11:37 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-27 13:09 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 11:17 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 10:23 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 12:46 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 11:06 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 09:04 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-28 15:13 +0200
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:28 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-28 14:39 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-28 16:24 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-03-28 16:28 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-28 17:19 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:32 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-28 18:31 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 14:07 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-03-28 19:46 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-28 14:56 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-28 15:09 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-03-28 23:12 +0100
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:28 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-03-28 17:40 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:42 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:49 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-03-28 18:06 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 20:09 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-03-28 23:22 +0100
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-28 19:20 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-29 09:11 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-28 15:14 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-28 22:23 +0200
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-28 19:21 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-31 08:28 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 13:17 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-03-27 12:57 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-27 10:58 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:29 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-27 11:33 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:48 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-27 18:51 +0200
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 10:05 -0700
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-27 19:06 +0200
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-03-27 11:56 -0500
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-03-27 20:13 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-25 15:33 -0400
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-03-25 17:18 +0000
Re: Open source: The new normal in enterprise software DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-03-28 11:09 -0400
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| From | Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 12:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bQaCA.110540$mB4.9145@fx25.iad> |
| In reply to | #403756 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/17 11:50 AM, chrisv wrote: > fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > >> chrisv wrote: >>> >>> Even more important is the flexibility and efficiency that FOSS >>> offers to business. No crawling to some vendor to get the code >>> to power your new gadget or service. No fooling-around with >>> licenses or NDA's. >> >> Unless a business wants to perform all accounting, including >> payroll, in house. These two related areas are critical to all >> businesses. >> >> GNU/Linux has no software for either accounting or payroll, and >> must use Microshit to do these jobs. > > I find that difficult to believe. Even if it's true, it doesn't > have much to do with the point that I was making. > > FOSS doesn't cover ALL the bases. When it comes to > "applications", the closed-source model is sometimes better. If there is a need, someone will eventually produce open-source software for it. I have trouble believing that there's no accounting of payroll too since we have no reason to believe that _all_ companies of the world insist that they need to do their finances on closed-source software. It's possible that they built their own, in-house software for that task like a lot of financial institutions do. - -- Silver Tongued-Heel Korora Linux Sponsor EFF & OpenMedia Member Gab.ai: @silverslimer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY2TmGAAoJEECBkWZkIkW3N7sP/AzpGOwNzJ+IGCOTu65UANsD NrmYI1MfytcDi6m4jSNWFA9C0vuuTleeRMtlRbiir02+bG1hUd6SGsWPq/cmnYgv HcCP5u8dr7tWfFCdQlo58HqTiqnF9WRojDGjogWMkBFtYjndbhLtgR/ePYHAjbcM wM8dmqOJk6HPvSr3ymc/bxXyMfMyV2Zxs0zloAN8+zCOp8/t766htwWdBuSXB3b7 6w7wwz5gLisoJEk8Ks89YDTLDVZrootA8aUbf7y5mVLDCmXBFq/QVgu4CC4hfHOb 9HXb8Q5hfak82pZZ/m8zc/AWNPR7F+O3sCCKQULQKkMzT9Pb+eVed8X5bDGNZcP4 V17L3ukEfeHqH83pFpgzIa5PNNFZdneJX0mbaaly3xQ6+nk87KV1DAC8AbA5jLOu gXVwjBUTI7U5SvB4DMGYRbQeK6tX1N3UFsgYRSkeZqCNR4V9WQgj+PkNNWTDbgSQ clHLN+dyOMxBWAmPTCdWvjN4iTuel0paOkGfKMH/4oxir9hIm/j65t8fmX80b1OE UENgi/dsvHV8Zw+mF/VPHp92E2XyVjj48YxzTReDmf/dZoo1nzTla8nZPQ85dVNZ 607+jU+WDWRfhJETuYYlwdit0pPLF1hzN0PvlIgLZfl178r8BOW0+eTndLQ0e3MH FO17fDQoeyMWZnGXPVsj =LtHM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 09:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <095f76ea-6e24-4c72-ac14-3d36f5ef85db@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403761 |
On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 12:10:49 PM UTC-4, Silver-Tongued Heel wrote: > > If there is a need, someone will eventually produce open-source > software for it. > There's been a need ever since GNU was started back in 1987, but no one has yet delivered. There is one candidate that has gone in the right direction: http://www.linuxcanada.com/accounting.html But this is also poor software and it is no longer open source. If there were FOSS accounting/payroll packages of comparable quality to closed-source apps it would be a tremendous motivation for GNU/Linux adoption. I have trouble believing that there's no accounting > of payroll too since we have no reason to believe that _all_ companies > of the world insist that they need to do their finances on > closed-source software. It's possible that they built their own, > in-house software for that task like a lot of financial institutions do. > > - -- > Silver Tongued-Heel > Korora Linux Sponsor > EFF & OpenMedia Member > Gab.ai: @silverslimer > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY2TmGAAoJEECBkWZkIkW3N7sP/AzpGOwNzJ+IGCOTu65UANsD > NrmYI1MfytcDi6m4jSNWFA9C0vuuTleeRMtlRbiir02+bG1hUd6SGsWPq/cmnYgv > HcCP5u8dr7tWfFCdQlo58HqTiqnF9WRojDGjogWMkBFtYjndbhLtgR/ePYHAjbcM > wM8dmqOJk6HPvSr3ymc/bxXyMfMyV2Zxs0zloAN8+zCOp8/t766htwWdBuSXB3b7 > 6w7wwz5gLisoJEk8Ks89YDTLDVZrootA8aUbf7y5mVLDCmXBFq/QVgu4CC4hfHOb > 9HXb8Q5hfak82pZZ/m8zc/AWNPR7F+O3sCCKQULQKkMzT9Pb+eVed8X5bDGNZcP4 > V17L3ukEfeHqH83pFpgzIa5PNNFZdneJX0mbaaly3xQ6+nk87KV1DAC8AbA5jLOu > gXVwjBUTI7U5SvB4DMGYRbQeK6tX1N3UFsgYRSkeZqCNR4V9WQgj+PkNNWTDbgSQ > clHLN+dyOMxBWAmPTCdWvjN4iTuel0paOkGfKMH/4oxir9hIm/j65t8fmX80b1OE > UENgi/dsvHV8Zw+mF/VPHp92E2XyVjj48YxzTReDmf/dZoo1nzTla8nZPQ85dVNZ > 607+jU+WDWRfhJETuYYlwdit0pPLF1hzN0PvlIgLZfl178r8BOW0+eTndLQ0e3MH > FO17fDQoeyMWZnGXPVsj > =LtHM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 09:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ad5f9c64-2036-4dd5-bd56-bc7071529292@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403756 |
On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 11:50:03 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > I find that difficult to believe. Even if it's true, it doesn't have > much to do with the point that I was making. > It's perfectly true. There are some examples but they are all junk, with most being based on sluggish web interfaces. > > FOSS doesn't cover ALL the bases. When it comes to "applications", > the closed-source model is sometimes better. > The closed-source "model" is a rip-off model. That's why we need viable open-source applications. Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative and write the damned thing.
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 11:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kMydnW6j4JcxokTFnZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #403770 |
On 2017-03-27, fr314159@gmail.com <fr314159@gmail.com> wrote: // snip > Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. > All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative > and write the damned thing. They'll have to maintain it or build a community willing to do so. -- Marek Novotný https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 13:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <obbgqd$u8e$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #403770 |
On 3/27/2017 12:35 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. > All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative > and write the damned thing. Hup to it, Feeb.
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 11:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87b1e330-b366-454c-b27b-dfe15761e44b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403786 |
On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote: > > Hup to it > There's no way I'd even begin. Judging by the responses I receive from this NG for all of my innovative and progressive posts and comments, the GNU/Linux community is composed of intellectually shallow and provincial idiots who can only exploit but never fully appreciate the contributions of FOSS developers. These stupefied goons are more interested in their latest distro wallpaper and games than they are in basic productivity. Am I going to invest my time in energy in the service of these freeloading degenerates? They can all kiss my fragrant ass. How many of them use Exherbo Linux? Exherbo expects that its users actually contribute back to the distro in some substantial way. Thus, we can scratch Exherbo off the list of COLA-approved distros.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 10:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <obdrfc$rn8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #403796 |
On 3/27/2017 2:17 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote: Restore your quote: > Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. > All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative > and write the damned thing. >> Hup to it >> > > There's no way I'd even begin. That's because you're a fucking "advocate" who sells out to Microsoft for money. If you were dedicated to GuhNoo and FOSS and Linux - and had the programming talent - you'd spend significant time writing GPL programs for everyone. > Judging by the responses I receive from this NG for all of my > innovative and progressive posts and comments, the GNU/Linux community > is composed of intellectually shallow and provincial idiots who > can only exploit but never fully appreciate the contributions of > FOSS developers. > > These stupefied goons are more interested in their latest distro > wallpaper and games than they are in basic productivity. > > Am I going to invest my time in energy in the service of these > freeloading degenerates? They can all kiss my fragrant ass. Bad attitude. Put the penguin sticker over your mouth, Feeb. > How many of them use Exherbo Linux? Exherbo expects that its > users actually contribute back to the distro in some substantial way. > Thus, we can scratch Exherbo off the list of COLA-approved distros. https://exherbo.org "For developers - we expect users to take part in the development." "Goals All design goals must be phrased in such a way that it is hard to use them as slogans to justify stupidity." ha! I like their attitude.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 12:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <afjidcd311ckukjqt3ln9uvkfm7lqpemfj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #403770 |
fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > chrisv wrote: >> >> FOSS doesn't cover ALL the bases. When it comes to "applications", >> the closed-source model is sometimes better. > > The closed-source "model" is a rip-off model. As long as the market is healthy, as long as there is real choice for consumers, and no unnaturally-high barriers for producers to enter a market, there should be no "rip offs". > That's why we need viable open-source applications. The market needs closed-source software, too. There's nothing wrong with it. -- "The middle 32 characters look very random - but it looks like you stop at the letter 'f'. * why stop at letter f?" - DumFSck, putting his ignorance on display
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-27 11:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4d5868a7-84f0-444d-b764-f3dd28c721bc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #403791 |
On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 1:46:03 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > As long as the market is healthy, as long as there is real choice for > consumers, and no unnaturally-high barriers for producers to enter a > market, there should be no "rip offs". > There are "rip-off" a plenty. It's the name of the game. You are as naïve as a schoolboy. Even worse, you are as naïve as a professor of economics. Do you actually believe in the nobility of the free enterprise system? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off practices of the producers. Wake up, idiot. Snap out of your dreams.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 09:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <obdmqt$clh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #403794 |
On 3/27/2017 2:06 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: Commercial: > The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, > are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off > practices of the producers. Open Source: > Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. > All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative > and write the damned thing. You gonna [in some cases over] pay for commercial code, or sit around for years and hope hobbyists write something worthwhile? I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 15:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <obdnch$ehj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #403977 |
DFS wrote: > On 3/27/2017 2:06 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > > > Commercial: >> The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, >> are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off >> practices of the producers. > > > Open Source: >> Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. >> All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative >> and write the damned thing. > > > You gonna [in some cases over] pay for commercial code, or sit around > for years and hope hobbyists write something worthwhile? > > I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux > (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close. Having "decent database" and "Access" in one sentence is hilarious Access is neither. It is not anywhere "decent", and as a "database" it sucks donkey dicks Why would aqnyone with more than half a brain have something like that shite? Linux has *much* better ones since longer than 12 years
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 13:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <obe699$3fn$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #403980 |
On 3/28/2017 9:13 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > DFS wrote: > >> On 3/27/2017 2:06 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> Commercial: >>> The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, >>> are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off >>> practices of the producers. >> >> >> Open Source: >>> Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. >>> All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative >>> and write the damned thing. >> >> >> You gonna [in some cases over] pay for commercial code, or sit around >> for years and hope hobbyists write something worthwhile? >> >> I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux >> (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close. > > Having "decent database" and "Access" in one sentence is hilarious > > Access is neither. It is not anywhere "decent", and as a "database" it sucks > donkey dicks It's fine if you know what you're doing, which excludes you. > Why would aqnyone with more than half a brain have something like that > shite? Linux has *much* better ones since longer than 12 years There is NO decent desktop database system native to Linux. Not one.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 14:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <obeaum$ffp$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #403980 |
Peter Köhlmann wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > DFS wrote: > >> I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux >> (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close. *LMFAO* > Having "decent database" and "Access" in one sentence is hilarious Yeah, he one funny mutherfscker! > Access is neither. It is not anywhere "decent", and as a "database" it sucks > donkey dicks > > Why would aqnyone with more than half a brain have something like that > shite? Linux has *much* better ones since longer than 12 years -- Knucklehead: "Knock, knock" Pee Wee: "Who's there?" Knucklehead: "Little ol' lady." Pee Wee: "Liddle ol' lady who?" Knucklehead: "I didn't know you could yodel"
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 16:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <aviv0q.gu3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #403977 |
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 3/27/2017 2:06 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > > > Commercial: >> The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, >> are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off >> practices of the producers. > > > Open Source: >> Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. >> All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative >> and write the damned thing. > > > You gonna [in some cases over] pay for commercial code, or sit around > for years and hope hobbyists write something worthwhile? > > I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux > (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close. > Why does it have to be like Access? What's wrong with running a db server on localhost?
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 16:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <obe2ur$44j$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #404013 |
On 2017-03-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 3/27/2017 2:06 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> Commercial: >>> The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, >>> are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off >>> practices of the producers. >> >> >> Open Source: >>> Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. >>> All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative >>> and write the damned thing. >> >> >> You gonna [in some cases over] pay for commercial code, or sit around >> for years and hope hobbyists write something worthwhile? >> >> I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux >> (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close. >> > > Why does it have to be like Access? Because in that way non programmers can have simple GUI app ;p What's wrong with running a db > server on localhost? Nothing, but Access provides a way to have simple GUI app without programming skills ;p > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 17:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hvjz003.ea@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #404014 |
Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: > On 2017-03-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 3/27/2017 2:06 PM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> Commercial: >>>> The consumers of software, from mom-and-pop shops to giant enterprises, >>>> are total idiots and they are being ravaged by the corrupt, rip-off >>>> practices of the producers. >>> >>> >>> Open Source: >>>> Everything that is needed is already here: GTK+, QT, databases, etc. >>>> All that we require is someone or some group to take the initiative >>>> and write the damned thing. >>> >>> >>> You gonna [in some cases over] pay for commercial code, or sit around >>> for years and hope hobbyists write something worthwhile? >>> >>> I've been looking for 12 years for a decent desktop database on Linux >>> (to compete with Access). So far, nothing even comes close. >>> >> >> Why does it have to be like Access? > > Because in that way non programmers can have simple GUI app ;p > > What's wrong with running a db >> server on localhost? > > Nothing, but Access provides a way to have simple GUI app without > programming skills ;p > >> I guess poor Dufus will have to keep looking. https://i.imgflip.com/1m95lr.jpg
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 13:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <obe6h3$3fn$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #404024 |
On 3/28/2017 1:19 PM, owl wrote: > I guess poor Dufus will have to keep looking. > https://i.imgflip.com/1m95lr.jpg LINK'EM or LOSE'EM.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pi00b.ahy3g@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #404030 |
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 3/28/2017 1:19 PM, owl wrote: > > >> I guess poor Dufus will have to keep looking. >> https://i.imgflip.com/1m95lr.jpg > > > LINK'EM or LOSE'EM. > https://vid.me/pWGD
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 14:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ioCdnUrGOuLpKUfFnZ2dnUU7-UvNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #404055 |
On 2017-03-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 3/28/2017 1:19 PM, owl wrote: >> >> >>> I guess poor Dufus will have to keep looking. >>> https://i.imgflip.com/1m95lr.jpg >> >> >> LINK'EM or LOSE'EM. >> > > https://vid.me/pWGD Is that his phone number? -- Marek Novotný https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-28 19:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <aib3ga.a0b@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #404073 |
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2017-03-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 3/28/2017 1:19 PM, owl wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I guess poor Dufus will have to keep looking. >>>> https://i.imgflip.com/1m95lr.jpg >>> >>> >>> LINK'EM or LOSE'EM. >>> >> >> https://vid.me/pWGD > > Is that his phone number? > It's Mrs. Dufus's phone number 404-FOR-SUCK
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