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Linux is power squared

Started by7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
First post2011-04-22 23:35 +0100
Last post2011-04-22 21:25 -0400
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  Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-22 23:35 +0100
    Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-22 16:57 -0600
      Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-22 19:17 -0400
        Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-22 19:29 -0400
          Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 01:04 +0100
            Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-22 20:12 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-22 20:14 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 00:25 +0000
                Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 01:36 +0100
                  Re: Linux is power squared RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 00:57 +0000
                Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:13 -0400
                  Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 16:35 +0200
                    Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:22 -0500
                    Re: Linux is power squared Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2011-04-24 05:36 +0000
                      Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 12:01 +0000
                        Re: Linux is power squared Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2011-04-25 21:45 +0000
                  Re: Linux is power squared RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 16:33 +0000
              Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 01:28 +0100
                Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-22 20:46 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:24 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 09:55 +0200
                Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-23 09:07 -0400
                Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 16:24 +0200
                    Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 16:16 +0100
                    Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 11:32 -0400
                Re: Linux is power squared chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:42 -0500
          Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-22 19:39 -0500
            Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-22 22:10 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 00:34 -0500
              Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 06:51 +0000
                Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:01 -0600
                  Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 07:14 +0000
                    Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:35 -0600
                      Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:38 -0600
                        Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 09:19 +0000
                      Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:24 -0400
                        Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 10:47 -0600
                          Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 19:46 +0200
                          Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 18:20 -0400
                            Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 22:20 -0400
                              Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 08:28 -0400
                                Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 14:18 -0400
                                  Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:13 +0200
                                Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:41 -0500
                                  Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-24 14:16 -0600
                                    Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 16:26 -0400
                                    Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:49 +0000
                                      Re: Linux is power squared Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2011-04-25 21:43 +0000
                                        Re: Linux is power squared Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2011-04-25 20:08 -0400
                                          Re: Linux is power squared Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-04-26 04:28 +0100
                                          Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 06:02 +0200
                                        Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-26 22:31 +0000
                                      Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:46 -0500
                Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-23 10:50 -0400
                  Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 17:19 +0200
                  Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:18 -0500
                    Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-23 12:49 -0400
                      Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 12:54 -0400
                      Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 20:00 +0200
                        Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:30 -0500
                          Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:44 +0200
                            Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:53 -0500
                      Re: Linux is power squared Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2011-04-23 18:32 -0400
                        Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-24 00:33 +0100
                      Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:29 -0500
                        Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 19:01 -0400
                          Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 19:35 -0400
                            Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 19:57 -0400
                              Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 20:08 -0400
                                Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 20:15 -0400
                                  Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 20:23 -0400
                                  Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:23 +0200
                              Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:20 +0200
                                Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 10:10 -0400
                                  Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 16:57 +0200
                                Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:50 -0500
                                  Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-26 12:34 -0400
                          Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:48 -0500
                            Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel98@steel98.com> - 2011-04-26 12:50 -0400
                    Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 18:29 -0400
                  Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 21:08 +0000
                    Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 15:14 -0600
                      Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 21:26 +0000
                    Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-23 17:25 -0400
                      Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-24 09:42 +0000
              Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:17 +0200
                Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 11:34 -0400
                Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:22 -0500
                  Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 18:30 -0400
        Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:23 -0400
      Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-04-22 23:24 +0000
        Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 07:22 -0400
        Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 14:29 +0100
      Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-22 23:34 +0000
        Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-22 19:46 -0500
          Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> - 2011-04-23 03:31 +0000
            Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 23:42 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 00:33 -0500
                Re: Linux is power squared Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2011-04-23 08:33 -0400
            Re: Linux is power squared Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-23 08:21 +0000
              Re: Linux is power squared William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-23 09:41 +0100
              Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 07:25 -0400
                Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:31 +0200
                  Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:29 -0400
                  Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:28 -0400
                    Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 22:15 -0400
                      Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 22:50 -0400
                        Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 23:16 -0400
                          Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:44 -0500
                            Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 22:30 +0200
                              Re: Linux is power squared William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-24 23:11 +0100
                                Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 18:50 -0400
                                Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 11:57 +0000
                              Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:16 -0400
                                Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 11:56 +0000
                                  Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-25 10:19 -0400
                            Re: Linux is power squared Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-24 14:15 -0700
                            Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:16 -0400
                              Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-24 18:40 -0600
                              Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:52 -0500
                                Re: Linux is power squared Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-04-27 02:51 +0100
                                  Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 22:18 +0000
                                    Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-28 19:51 -0500
                                      Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-03 20:48 +0000
                                        Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 11:15 -0500
                                          Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 20:22 +0000
                                            Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 17:30 -0500
                                              Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 23:19 +0000
                                                Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-05 13:05 -0500
                                                  Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 21:50 +0000
                                                    Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-06 10:40 -0500
                                                      Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 23:32 +0000
                                                      Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 23:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Linux is power squared RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 00:23 +0000
                                                          Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-09 13:18 -0500
                            Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:14 +0200
                              Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:52 -0500
                        Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 10:42 +0200
                          Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 04:58 -0400
                            Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 11:14 +0200
                              Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:44 -0500
                                Re: Linux is power squared chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:51 -0500
                                  Re: Linux is power squared "caged steel" <CS@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 09:27 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-23 09:15 -0700
            Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 14:19 +0100
              Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:37 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:27 -0400
      Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 01:01 +0100
        Re: 7 is power less DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-22 20:30 -0400
          Re: 7 is power less flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:28 -0400
          Re: 7 is power less 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 14:54 +0100
        Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-22 18:55 -0600
      Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-22 19:36 -0500
        Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 00:27 -0600
          Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:20 -0400
          Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:13 -0500
            Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-23 12:54 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 12:57 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 11:05 -0600
                Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 20:05 +0200
                  Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 14:12 -0400
                  Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:34 -0500
            Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 10:55 -0600
              Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 13:03 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:49 -0400
              Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:39 -0500
    Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:25 -0400

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#17776

FromChris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com>
Date2011-04-23 08:21 +0000
Message-ID<iou26h$r35$2@inf2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
In reply to#17750
Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:

> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack

Are you sure you know what you are doing?

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#17777

FromWilliam Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net>
Date2011-04-23 09:41 +0100
Message-ID<7vfa88-om7.ln1@linuxnetwork.alpha.org>
In reply to#17776
Chris wrote:

> Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:
>
>> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack
>
> Are you sure you know what you are doing?

You expect DooFu$ to know wtf he's doing when it comes to Linux?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...etc.

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#17789

FromChris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com>
Date2011-04-23 07:25 -0400
Message-ID<ioud09$t7k$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17776
Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:
>
>> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack
>
> Are you sure you know what you are doing?

No, he doesn't.  I just installed espeak on Debian, it added a couple
dependencies, and espeak worked right off the bat.

My theory is that DFS could fuck up a steel ball.

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#17796

FromTomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>
Date2011-04-23 14:31 +0200
Message-ID<20110423141935.347@usenet.drumscum.be>
In reply to#17789
On 2011-04-23, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:
>>
>>> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack
>>
>> Are you sure you know what you are doing?
>
> No, he doesn't.

Apparently not:

$ aptitude show jack

Package: jack
State: not installed
Version: 3.1.1+cvs20050801-26+b1
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Maintainer: Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org>
Uncompressed Size: 618 k
Depends: python (< 2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-support (>= 0.90.0), libc6 (>=
         2.2.5), libncursesw5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), python-cddb, python-eyed3,
         python-pyvorbis (>= 0.5) | python-mutagen, cdparanoia | cdda2wav,
         vorbis-tools | flac
Description: Rip and encode CDs with one command
 Jack has been developed with one main goal: making OGGs (or MP3s) without
 having to worry. There is nearly no way that an incomplete rip goes unnoticed,
 e.g. jack compares WAV and OGG file sizes when continuing from a previous run.
 Jack also checks your HD space before doing anything (even keeps some MB free).
 
 Jack is different from other such tools in a number of ways: 
 * it supports different rippers and encoders 
 * it is very configurable 
 * it doesn't need X 
 * it can "rip" virtual CD images like the ones created by cdrdao 
 * when using cdparanoia, cdparanoia's status information is displayed and
   archived for all tracks, so you can see if something went wrong 
 * it uses sophisticated disk space management, i.e. it schedules its
   ripping/encoding processes depending on available space. 
 * freedb query, file renaming and id3/ogg-tagging 
 * it can resume work after it has been interrupted. If all tracks have been
   ripped, it doesn't even need the CD anymore, even if you want to do a freedb
   query. 
 * it can do a freedb query based on OGGs alone, like if you don't remember from
   which CD those OGGs came from. 
 * freedb submissions

What the good man needs is jackd:

$ aptitude show jackd

Package: jackd
State: not installed
Version: 5
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Uncompressed Size: 32.8 k
Depends: jackd2 | jackd1
Description: JACK Audio Connection Kit (default server package)
 JACK is a low-latency sound server, allowing multiple applications to connect
 to one audio device, and to share audio between themselves. 
 
 This dummy package depends on the current default JACK implementation.

But even then, espeak shouldn't depend on jackd. It should run just
fine, even with the warnings DFS posted (I get the warnings too, but
the program executes just fine).

-- 
Abort, Retry, Fail?

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#17816

FromChris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com>
Date2011-04-23 10:29 -0400
Message-ID<iounpq$imc$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17796
TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2011-04-23, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:
>>>
>>>> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack
>>>
>>> Are you sure you know what you are doing?
>>
>> No, he doesn't.
>
> Apparently not:
>
> $ aptitude show jack
>
> Package: jack
> State: not installed
>
> What the good man needs is jackd:
>
> $ aptitude show jackd
>
> Package: jackd
> State: not installed
> Version: 5
> Priority: optional
> Section: sound
> Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Uncompressed Size: 32.8 k
> Depends: jackd2 | jackd1
> Description: JACK Audio Connection Kit (default server package)
>  JACK is a low-latency sound server, allowing multiple applications to connect
>  to one audio device, and to share audio between themselves. 
>  
>  This dummy package depends on the current default JACK implementation.
>
> But even then, espeak shouldn't depend on jackd. It should run just
> fine, even with the warnings DFS posted (I get the warnings too, but
> the program executes just fine).

jackd is not installed on my machine.  espeak doesn't need it.

On a sad note, after a few years of not doing squat with MIDI, I gave my
Yamaha touch-sensitive keyboard to a school.

If I do any audio work, it is going to have to be all computer-generated.

-- 
Coach: What would you say to a beer, Normie?
Norm:  Daddy wuvs you.
		-- Cheers, The Mail Goes to Jail
 
Sam:  What'd you like, Normie?
Norm: A reason to live.  Gimme another beer.
		-- Cheers, Behind Every Great Man
 
Sam:  What will you have, Norm?
Norm: Well, I'm in a gambling mood, Sammy.  I'll take a glass of whatever
      comes out of that tap.
Sam:  Oh, looks like beer, Norm.
Norm: Call me Mister Lucky.
		-- Cheers, The Executive's Executioner

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#17933

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2011-04-23 17:28 -0400
Message-ID<iovgan$9l1$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17796
On 4/23/2011 8:31 AM, TomB wrote:
> On 2011-04-23, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:
>>>
>>>> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack
>>>
>>> Are you sure you know what you are doing?
>
>> No, he doesn't.
>
> Apparently not:

I checked top to see if it had a 'jack' process running.  There wasn't 
one there so I installed jack.



> $ aptitude show jack
>
> Package: jack
> State: not installed
> Version: 3.1.1+cvs20050801-26+b1
> Priority: optional
> Section: sound
> Maintainer: Michael Banck<mbanck@debian.org>
> Uncompressed Size: 618 k
> Depends: python (<  2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-support (>= 0.90.0), libc6 (>=
>           2.2.5), libncursesw5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), python-cddb, python-eyed3,
>           python-pyvorbis (>= 0.5) | python-mutagen, cdparanoia | cdda2wav,
>           vorbis-tools | flac
> Description: Rip and encode CDs with one command
>   Jack has been developed with one main goal: making OGGs (or MP3s) without
>   having to worry. There is nearly no way that an incomplete rip goes unnoticed,
>   e.g. jack compares WAV and OGG file sizes when continuing from a previous run.
>   Jack also checks your HD space before doing anything (even keeps some MB free).
>
>   Jack is different from other such tools in a number of ways:
>   * it supports different rippers and encoders
>   * it is very configurable
>   * it doesn't need X
>   * it can "rip" virtual CD images like the ones created by cdrdao
>   * when using cdparanoia, cdparanoia's status information is displayed and
>     archived for all tracks, so you can see if something went wrong
>   * it uses sophisticated disk space management, i.e. it schedules its
>     ripping/encoding processes depending on available space.
>   * freedb query, file renaming and id3/ogg-tagging
>   * it can resume work after it has been interrupted. If all tracks have been
>     ripped, it doesn't even need the CD anymore, even if you want to do a freedb
>     query.
>   * it can do a freedb query based on OGGs alone, like if you don't remember from
>     which CD those OGGs came from.
>   * freedb submissions
>
> What the good man needs is jackd:


hmmm... apparently when Ubuntu shitware errors out and says the "jack 
server is not running or cannot be started", you should ignore it and 
install jackd instead.

With Linux hobby-crapware, do you always have to add a 'd' to get the 
correct package name?





> $ aptitude show jackd
>
> Package: jackd
> State: not installed
> Version: 5
> Priority: optional
> Section: sound
> Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers<pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
> Uncompressed Size: 32.8 k
> Depends: jackd2 | jackd1
> Description: JACK Audio Connection Kit (default server package)
>   JACK is a low-latency sound server, allowing multiple applications to connect
>   to one audio device, and to share audio between themselves.
>
>   This dummy package depends on the current default JACK implementation.
>
> But even then, espeak shouldn't depend on jackd. It should run just
> fine, even with the warnings DFS posted (I get the warnings too, but
> the program executes just fine).


After reading this comment, I tested it again.  I had recently 
reinstalled Ubuntu 10.10 (Wubi) and by default the sound was muted.  I 
unmuted and espeak did work - but the shitware continued to tell me:

bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) Cannot
connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect 
to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started



Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.

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#17992

Fromflatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com>
Date2011-04-23 22:15 -0400
Message-ID<1lvkfuji91bfm.tszboeg965v6$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#17933
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:28:55 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 4/23/2011 8:31 AM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2011-04-23, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>>> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Am Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:31:33 +0000 schrieb DFS:
>>>>
>>>>> dfs@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install jack
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure you know what you are doing?
>>
>>> No, he doesn't.
>>
>> Apparently not:
> 
> I checked top to see if it had a 'jack' process running.  There wasn't 
> one there so I installed jack.
> 
> 
> 
>> $ aptitude show jack
>>
>> Package: jack
>> State: not installed
>> Version: 3.1.1+cvs20050801-26+b1
>> Priority: optional
>> Section: sound
>> Maintainer: Michael Banck<mbanck@debian.org>
>> Uncompressed Size: 618 k
>> Depends: python (<  2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-support (>= 0.90.0), libc6 (>=
>>           2.2.5), libncursesw5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), python-cddb, python-eyed3,
>>           python-pyvorbis (>= 0.5) | python-mutagen, cdparanoia | cdda2wav,
>>           vorbis-tools | flac
>> Description: Rip and encode CDs with one command
>>   Jack has been developed with one main goal: making OGGs (or MP3s) without
>>   having to worry. There is nearly no way that an incomplete rip goes unnoticed,
>>   e.g. jack compares WAV and OGG file sizes when continuing from a previous run.
>>   Jack also checks your HD space before doing anything (even keeps some MB free).
>>
>>   Jack is different from other such tools in a number of ways:
>>   * it supports different rippers and encoders
>>   * it is very configurable
>>   * it doesn't need X
>>   * it can "rip" virtual CD images like the ones created by cdrdao
>>   * when using cdparanoia, cdparanoia's status information is displayed and
>>     archived for all tracks, so you can see if something went wrong
>>   * it uses sophisticated disk space management, i.e. it schedules its
>>     ripping/encoding processes depending on available space.
>>   * freedb query, file renaming and id3/ogg-tagging
>>   * it can resume work after it has been interrupted. If all tracks have been
>>     ripped, it doesn't even need the CD anymore, even if you want to do a freedb
>>     query.
>>   * it can do a freedb query based on OGGs alone, like if you don't remember from
>>     which CD those OGGs came from.
>>   * freedb submissions
>>
>> What the good man needs is jackd:
> 
> 
> hmmm... apparently when Ubuntu shitware errors out and says the "jack 
> server is not running or cannot be started", you should ignore it and 
> install jackd instead.
> 
> With Linux hobby-crapware, do you always have to add a 'd' to get the 
> correct package name?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> $ aptitude show jackd
>>
>> Package: jackd
>> State: not installed
>> Version: 5
>> Priority: optional
>> Section: sound
>> Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers<pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
>> Uncompressed Size: 32.8 k
>> Depends: jackd2 | jackd1
>> Description: JACK Audio Connection Kit (default server package)
>>   JACK is a low-latency sound server, allowing multiple applications to connect
>>   to one audio device, and to share audio between themselves.
>>
>>   This dummy package depends on the current default JACK implementation.
>>
>> But even then, espeak shouldn't depend on jackd. It should run just
>> fine, even with the warnings DFS posted (I get the warnings too, but
>> the program executes just fine).
> 
> 
> After reading this comment, I tested it again.  I had recently 
> reinstalled Ubuntu 10.10 (Wubi) and by default the sound was muted.  I 
> unmuted and espeak did work - but the shitware continued to tell me:
> 
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) Cannot
> connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect 
> to server socket
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> 
> 
> 
> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.

Try running it sudo....


-- 
flatfish+++
Please visit our hall of Linux idiots.
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Watching Linux Fail:
http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
 
Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead
"By the time Microsoft released the Windows 7 beta 
in January 2009, Linux had clearly lost its chance at desktop glory."
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/207999/desktop_linux_the_dream_is_dead.html

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#18002

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2011-04-23 22:50 -0400
Message-ID<ip036a$jas$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#17992
On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:


> Try running it sudo....

You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo' means and 
what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll get 10 different 
answers, and they'll argue over it for days.

Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.

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#18008

Fromflatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com>
Date2011-04-23 23:16 -0400
Message-ID<19vzs4mn2st14$.wnd4earptwtu.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#18002
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> 
> 
>> Try running it sudo....
> 
> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo' means and 
> what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll get 10 different 
> answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
> 
> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.

Yep.

Linux has a knack for wasting time.
Whether it's arguing over how to pronounce Linux, if Linux is just the
kernel, if it's gnu/linux and so forth.

If they spend half as much time repairing their defective operating
system as they do arguing over inconsequential things, it might be
usable after 20 years.

-- 
flatfish+++
Please visit our hall of Linux idiots.
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Watching Linux Fail:
http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
 
Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead
"By the time Microsoft released the Windows 7 beta 
in January 2009, Linux had clearly lost its chance at desktop glory."
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/207999/desktop_linux_the_dream_is_dead.html

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#18144

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2011-04-24 13:44 -0500
Message-ID<slrnir8rrm.490.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#18008
On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Try running it sudo....
>> 
>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo' means and 
>> what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll get 10 different 
>> answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>> 
>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>
> Yep.
>
> Linux has a knack for wasting time.

...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".

-- 
    In a "stable" but "inconsistent" system, the end user only        |||
    has to adapt once rather than needing to adapt any time a        / | \
    new version of the relevant shovelware is released.

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#18182

FromTomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>
Date2011-04-24 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<20110424222615.931@usenet.drumscum.be>
In reply to#18144
On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>> 
>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>> 
>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>
> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".

Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.

-- 
Life is the art of drawing without an eraser.
	~ John W. Gardner

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#18192

FromWilliam Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net>
Date2011-04-24 23:11 +0100
Message-ID<fqje88-o18.ln1@linuxnetwork.alpha.org>
In reply to#18182
TomB wrote:

> On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>> 
>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>> 
>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>
>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>
> Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.

Does the troll ever make a statement that *isn't* bullshit?

-- 
A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer.
"Microsoft has vast resources, literally billions of dollars in cash, or liquid assets reserves. 
Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the premise of market dominance with low-quality goods." 
-- Former White House adviser Richard A. Clarke --

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#18197

FromBig Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com>
Date2011-04-24 18:50 -0400
Message-ID<OK6dnW0UprekNCnQnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#18192
On 4/24/2011 6:11 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> TomB wrote:
>
>> On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++<flatfish@marianatrench.com>  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>>>
>>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>>
>>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>>
>> Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.
>
> Does the troll ever make a statement that *isn't* bullshit?
>

When does old Kiss-Ass-Bullshit-Willy not make bullshit statements?

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#18310

FromTomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>
Date2011-04-25 11:57 +0000
Message-ID<20110425135637.920@usenet.drumscum.be>
In reply to#18192
On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of William Poaster:
> TomB wrote:
>
>> On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>>> 
>>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>>
>>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>>
>> Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.
>
> Does the troll ever make a statement that *isn't* bullshit?

Well, he did say that The Who and Led Zeppelin made amazing music ;-)

(which may be bullshit according to some, but those ought to have
their ears checked :-p )

-- 
He's got a watch with a minute hand,
Millenium hand and an eon hand.
When they meet it's a happy land.
Powerful man, universe man.
	~ They Might Be Giants

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#18221

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2011-04-24 20:16 -0400
Message-ID<ip2egr$9hc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18182
On 4/24/2011 4:30 PM, TomB wrote:
> On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++<flatfish@marianatrench.com>  wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>>
>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>>
>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>
>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>
> Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.


http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/e17aaf1f0ad603e7/692751c35ba4ac8c?hl=en&q=group:comp.os.linux.advocacy+insubject:sudo#692751c35ba4ac8c



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#18309

FromTomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>
Date2011-04-25 11:56 +0000
Message-ID<20110425135059.993@usenet.drumscum.be>
In reply to#18221
On 2011-04-25, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> On 4/24/2011 4:30 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++<flatfish@marianatrench.com>  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>>>
>>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>>
>>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>>
>> Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/e17aaf1f0ad603e7/692751c35ba4ac8c?hl=en&q=group:comp.os.linux.advocacy+insubject:sudo#692751c35ba4ac8c

So? A couple of people discussing the usage of sudo? Is that the best
you can come up with? Are these your 'pack of Linux idiots' giving us
'10 different answers' about 'what it does and what permissions it
gives' while they 'argue over it for days'?

Your statement remains bullshit.

-- 
It's a man's obligation to stick his boneration in a woman's
separation; this sort of penetration will increase the population
of the younger generation.
	~ Eric Cartman

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#18412

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2011-04-25 10:19 -0400
Message-ID<ip3vst$p9l$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18309
On 4/25/2011 7:56 AM, TomB wrote:
> On 2011-04-25, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> On 4/24/2011 4:30 PM, TomB wrote:
>>> On 2011-04-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>>>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++<flatfish@marianatrench.com>   wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo'
>>>>>> means and what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll
>>>>>> get 10 different answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>>>
>>>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>>>
>>> Plus DFS's statement is bullshit anyway.
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/e17aaf1f0ad603e7/692751c35ba4ac8c?hl=en&q=group:comp.os.linux.advocacy+insubject:sudo#692751c35ba4ac8c
>
> So? A couple of people discussing the usage of sudo? Is that the best
> you can come up with? Are these your 'pack of Linux idiots' giving us
> '10 different answers' about 'what it does and what permissions it
> gives' while they 'argue over it for days'?
>
> Your statement remains bullshit.


Of course not.  For example, watch the pack of Linux idiots babbling in 
this thread:

"It's technically Super User Do"

"Sudo, you're root, you're just not root."

"My theory: "su" stands for switch user. It makes you the other user 
temporarily"

"It [su] was originally "substitute user""

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922632&highlight=sudo




Ubuntu even had to include a special 'Misconceptions' section because 
the pack of babbling Linux idiots don't understand it.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Misconceptions

And notice they had to disclaim and refuse support for using the -i and 
-s switches.



Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.

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#18185

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2011-04-24 14:15 -0700
Message-ID<C9D9E10C.95F21%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#18144
JEDIDIAH stated in post slrnir8rrm.490.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 4/24/11 11:44
AM:

> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>> 
>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo' means and
>>> what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll get 10 different
>>> answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>> 
>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>> 
>> Yep.
>> 
>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
> 
> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
> 
It is a Unix thing... and Linux is Unix-like.

Sounds pretty much like it is a Linux thing to me (though also a Unix
thing).


-- 
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

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#18222

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2011-04-24 20:16 -0400
Message-ID<ip2eh6$9hc$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18144
On 4/24/2011 2:44 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++<flatfish@marianatrench.com>  wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>
>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo' means and
>>> what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll get 10 different
>>> answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>
>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>
> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".


You really are an idiot "sometimes", JED.



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#18226

FromTom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid>
Date2011-04-24 18:40 -0600
Message-ID<ip2fu9$77j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#18222
DFS explained :
> On 4/24/2011 2:44 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2011-04-24, flatfish+++<flatfish@marianatrench.com>  wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:50:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/23/2011 10:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Try running it sudo....
>>>>
>>>> You know what's funny?  Ask a pack of Linux idiots what 'sudo' means and
>>>> what it does and what permissions it gives, and you'll get 10 different
>>>> answers, and they'll argue over it for days.
>>>>
>>>> Linux does not belong anywhere near end users.
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> Linux has a knack for wasting time.
>>
>> ...except "sudo" is not a "Linux thing".
>
>
> You really are an idiot "sometimes", JED.

Sometimes?

-- 
Tom Shelton

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