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Re: enjoy Hell

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: enjoy Hell
Date 2026-03-01 19:02 +0000
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 14:26:23 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> And anyone who can believe the "just so" "miraculous" stories necessary
> for the "evolution" stupidity to exist, probably should just quietly
> slink away.

I've been reading Herbert Spencer on and off. He was a contemporary of 
Darwin and coined the phrase 'survival of the fittest' which Darwin later 
adopted. He was sort of a Lamarckian  since he didn't find the 'just so' 
stories convincing. 

One example he uses is the giraffe. Like many of the creationist arguments 
he points out to get from, say, a horse-like creature, to a giraffe 
requires a lot of modifications that aren't necessarily adaptive in 
themselves but are needed to make a giraffe possible. 

He also points out changes don't always work in parallel with closely 
related components. For example, the human jaw shortened from the earlier 
hominid species, resulting in humans really having too many teeth, a boon 
to orthodontists. 

Current neo-Darwinists don't do much better. Dawkins approaches hard 
questions but first diverges to an interesting 30 page anecdote hoping the 
reader will forget the question he was supposed to answer.

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OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-03-01 02:10 +0000
  Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 21:28 -0500
    Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell Ronan O'Toole <null127@localhost.net> - 2026-02-28 22:05 -0500
      Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-03-01 03:23 +0000
        Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell Ronan O'Toole <null127@localhost.net> - 2026-02-28 22:34 -0500
          Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 23:05 -0500
          Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 07:42 +0000
        Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 22:38 -0500
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        Re: enjoy Hell RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 14:26 +0000
          Re: enjoy Hell rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-01 19:02 +0000
            Re: enjoy Hell RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 01:32 +0000
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                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-04 02:04 +0000
                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-03-03 17:00 -0600
                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-04 00:00 +0000
                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 04:27 +0000
                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-05 22:48 +0000
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                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 03:57 +0000
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                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 03:44 +0000
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 03:45 +0000
                Re: The Peace President Drags His Country Into Yet Another War -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-03-05 19:04 -0500
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 03:36 +0000
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-05 17:18 +0000
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-05 22:52 +0000
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                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 04:08 +0000
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-05 22:07 +0000
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 03:25 +0000
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              Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-02 05:53 +0000
                Re: The “Peace President” Drags His Country Into Yet Another War RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 23:30 +0000
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  Re: OT: Goodbye Khomeini, enjoy your many virgins in Hell RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 07:36 +0000
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