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Scott vs Relf

From "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me>
Message-ID <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18--1.20pm.Seattle.2023> (permalink)
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Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Scott vs Relf
Organization usenet-news.net
Date 2023-11-18 13:20 -0800

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1. d4 d5   2. Nc3 c5  3. e3 Nf6   4. Bb5+ Bd7    5. Qe2 Nc6   6. Nf3 e6
7. O-O a6  8. Bd3 c4  9. Ng5 h6  10. Nxf7 cxd3  11. Qxd3  Kxf7

r     q   b   r  8
  p   b   k p    7
p   n   p n   p  6
      p          5
      P          4
    N Q P        3
P P P     P P P  2
R   B     R K    1

a b c d e f g h

StockFish acts like it's "been there and done that" ( because it has );
it takes less than a second to reveal the best move . . . 
so why heat up the room ?! 17 additional minutes of analysis won't change its answer.

> Though _LLMs_ can't play chess, there is apparently
> a way to use neural nets to train chess computers ?  Interesting.

Yes, it's the _Only_ way that StockFish knows to score something.

2013, a then 33 year old Gary Linscott, in Seattle,
now the Principal Software Engineer at Amazon's Zoox ( self driving vehicles )
devised StockFish's system for deciding whether a change to
the neural network would be beneficial or not.

All that testing, tens of thousands of volunteer PCs 
( plenty of carbon emissions ), makes it so that 
there's nothing left to analyze when playtime arrives.

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Re: d5 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-14 00:21 +0000
  Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-13 17:07 -0800
    Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-14 01:57 +0000
      Re: Scott vs Relf % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 19:02 -0700
      Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-13 19:43 -0800
        Re: Scott vs Relf % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 20:49 -0700
        Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-14 04:49 +0000
          Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-13 22:09 -0800
            Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-15 03:31 +0000
              Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-14 20:15 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-15 04:24 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-14 21:01 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-15 06:53 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-14 23:36 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-11-15 09:42 -0600
                Re: Scott vs Relf % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 09:49 -0700
                Re: Scott vs Relf candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-11-15 11:20 -0600
                Scott has more "compute". "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-15 13:50 -0800
                Scott forgets if it's his turn or not. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-15 14:11 -0800
                Re: Scott has more "compute". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-16 04:00 +0000
                Re: Scott has more "compute". % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 21:12 -0700
                Have you memorized the ECO ? "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-15 20:23 -0800
                Your move (was: Re: Have you memorized the ECO ?) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-16 04:29 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-15 21:20 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-16 05:56 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-16 00:06 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-17 06:08 +0000
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-17 06:15 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-17 00:33 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-18 01:44 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-17 20:22 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-18 17:28 +0000
                Scott vs Relf "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-18 13:20 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-11-18 22:58 -0600
                Chess has too many "unknown unknowns". "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-18 21:25 -0800
                The game of chess has been solved. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-20 00:34 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-22 18:27 +0000
                There are but a few, finite, ways to succeed. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-22 17:57 -0800
                Game 2. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-23 09:52 -0800
                When StockFish plays its 2nd best move. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-24 01:35 -0800
                The most satisfying way to beat StockFish. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-25 06:15 -0800
                Re: Scott vs Relf Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2023-11-18 10:31 +0000
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-18 17:40 +0000
                Re: Scott vs Relf Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2023-11-18 18:11 +0000
                Re: Scott vs Relf candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2023-11-18 23:06 -0600
                Re: Scott vs Relf RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> - 2023-11-16 07:49 -0500
                Re: Scott vs Relf vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-16 04:21 +0000
                I refuse to memorize chess games; I truly suck. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-15 20:36 -0800
                Re: I refuse to memorize chess games; I truly suck. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-16 05:27 +0000
                How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine, I wonder. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-15 21:37 -0800
                Re: How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine, I wonder. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-11-16 06:18 +0000
                How many CPUs and/or threads could you muster into a chess engine ? "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2023-11-16 00:07 -0800
                Re: I refuse to memorize chess games; I truly suck. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2023-11-16 09:26 -0500

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