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Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild

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On 4/13/17, 5:41 AM, in article ocnrev$kq8$3@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> On 4/12/2017 1:39 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 10:34:27 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> 
>>> Oh no! I know (well, knew, have not used it much in years) a tool
>>> that allows for very rapid development. OK, for those who do not
>>> know what DFS and the stalker are babbling about (and for some
>>> reason care). Reader's Digest version:
>>> 
>>> I worked at Intuit and they set up rules for incentives for
>>> temporary employees based on all sorts of stats such as call
>>> times, customer satisfaction, database entry ratings, overtime, and
>>> more. This was for the tax season. They goofed, though, and while
>>> they had the data in different databases and the like, they had no
>>> tool to calculate the bonuses based on their own rules. They got a
>>> team of (I think) three people using some flavor of .NET (possibly
>>> VB.NET) to built a tool. They failed -- it was not ready a few
>>> weeks before it was needed. My supervisor asked if I could do it. I
>>> said yes and did it... my solution was slow and clunky and depended
>>> on manually importing data but it worked. It is what was used that
>>> year.
>>> 
>>> The next year the other tool was done but they changed the rules
>>> close to the time it was going to be needed... and the time it
>>> would take to update the other tool was long. I was asked to update
>>> my tool and I did. It worked.
>>> 
>>> The third year the other tool was ready. It was faster. It
>>> automated the collection of data. It had a web interface any
>>> manager could access right from their desk. It was faster at
>>> calculating the output than my tool (by FAR). It was, in pretty
>>> much every way, a better tool (other than that it was TWO years
>>> late).
>> 
>> Gee, another "interesting" version (of what appears to be an ever
>> changing story), what a shock <eyeroll>.
> 
> 
> An earlier version you told me about:
> 
> <quote>
> When I worked at Intuit they needed a system to compute benefits for the
> tax season. Took the "expert programmers," a group of 4 I think, TWO
> YEARS to get their system to work.
> 
> Took me TWO WEEKS, alone, to have a working system.
> 
> Yes, when they completed theirs it was faster and better in many ways.
> No doubt. But it took them TWO tax seasons to get it to work. Insane.
> </quote>
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/gaR_ts2s16c/
> vzyp4GN5CgAJ

Other than the uncertainty if it was 3 or 4 people, of which BOTH times I
noted "I think" and made it clear I was guessing, do you see ANY difference
in the two? If so, what?
 
> In this earlier version, the 4 Intuit programmers worked for 2 years = 8
> man-years, versus Snit's 2 man-weeks.  A productivity ratio of 209 to 1
> in Snit's favor.
>
> Halleluhah!  It's another IT miracle!  They happen with alarming
> regularity here on cola.  We're blessed.

Interesting that YOU describe the type of work I can do with a computer as
an "IT miracle". I mean, sure, I did a cool thing, but it was mostly that
the others working on the project (and those directing them) were idiots.


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Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-12 10:02 -0400
  Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 08:58 -0700
  Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-12 09:34 -0700
    Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 10:39 -0700
      Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-13 08:41 -0400
        Re: Word Zero Day Flaw out in the Wild Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-13 07:55 -0700

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