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Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice

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On 4/1/13 8:27 AM, in article slrnklj9qo.ghs.jedi@nomad.mishnet, "JEDIDIAH"
<jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:

> On 2013-03-30, Adam Gansefoort <nospam@nospam.eu> wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>> <http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/03/standardization-as-road-to-more-choic
>>> e.html> OR <http://bit.ly/YmynS8>
>>>    -----
>>>    If you are reading this article from a Desktop Linux system take a
>>>    minute and look at a few programs on your system ... Chances are
>>>    you will find much inconsistency in the programs you look at. Even
>>>    within single programs there is often a great deal of
>>> inconsistency.
> 
>    So?
> 
>    Even shovels exhibit diversity. Different shovels are intended to
> solve different problems. Each exist because people are free to buy
> and sell whatever they want in a free market.
> 
> [deletia]
> 
>    Tools exist to solve problems. They are meant to be effective.

Right. And one of the problems with desktop Linux is that it does not follow
what we *know* to help be more effective (making people more efficient,
productive, and reduce error rates). I have been advocating for desktop
Linux to improve in these areas - and others have too. More important,
however, is that things have been changing. Look at PCLOS and Kubuntu and
Ubuntu and other distros of today compared to even a few years ago. They
*are* being made to be more effective. But there is still a lot that can be
done to make them better, in terms of UI and application choice (and other
things as well).

> They aren't built to coddle the lazy or morons.

A well build system helps novices and advanced users - your verbiage there
shows how you not only fail to get this but also look down at others who are
not technical. It is an elitist and arrogant world view.

> A useful tool might be a little hard to deal with. Some may even be dangerous.
> You don't even have to contemplate computer software to realize this.
> 
> A general purpose computer is not a toast, it is not a single tool, it isn't
> even the tool section of a single hardware store.
> 
> It is every conceivable tool everywhere and every tool not yet concieved.

Which makes it even more important to follow good UI conventions... what I
have been advocating and much of the "advocates" in COLA have been fighting
me on.

-- 
"90% of computers use Microsoft's Windows ... Macs account for 9% of the
market while the open source system Linux accounts for 0.8%."
-- Linus Torvalds

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Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-30 08:34 -0700
  Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice "Adam Gansefoort" <nospam@nospam.eu> - 2013-03-30 18:44 +0100
    Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-30 11:13 -0700
      Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-03-30 22:39 +0100
        Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-30 15:35 -0700
    Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-04-01 10:27 -0500
      Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-01 13:08 -0700
        Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-04-01 16:15 -0400
          Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-01 13:25 -0700
          Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-02 08:19 -0400
            Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-04-02 07:03 -0700
          Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-02 08:31 -0400
            Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-02 09:21 -0400
              Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-02 10:11 -0400
                Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-02 12:30 -0400
      Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-04-01 23:27 -0400
        Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 09:40 +0100
        Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-04-02 08:20 -0400
  Re: Standardization as a Road to More Choice Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2013-03-31 12:28 -0700

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