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Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics
Date	2012-06-28 14:38 -0700
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On 6/28/12 2:21 PM, in article
13ca71ae-4ecd-4a70-ad70-d5a266d9ee19@googlegroups.com, "cc"
<scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Where do you think I was proved wrong other than that the upswing I
>> predicted now has been shown to be very unlikely from the cause I had used
>> to predict it (which is fine, I never claimed there was a cause-and-effect
>> relationship that was proved)
> 
> How would you characterize an upswing that was caused by a single state out of
> the entire world-wide population?
> 
> Would you consider that a legitimate upswing, or would you be more likely to
> say that something fishy was going on in California, meaning that the data is
> not to be trusted? I mean, if you ignore California, there was no upswing at
> all.
> 
> Oh, you already said, "Now *this* is a decent explanation as to why the
> upswing in the latter half of 2011 is not something that should be taken all
> that seriously." So we're obviously not taking it seriously, because the data
> has a serious likelihood of being an anomaly, and not being legitimate.

Right... which has nothing to do with your BS.  Remember, you have been
proved wrong repeatedly:

1) You were wrong to claim it was a "fact" that some data points
   were outliers: the reality is that there is no clear
   definition nor single standard way to determine such, and thus
   such determinations are subjective and *not* "facts".

2) You made a rather silly claim to say that 17% of the data are
   "outliers" - especially when those data are in a direct series
   tied to a *very* clear trend that includes 25% of the data.

3) Outliers are atypical - you clearly are stretching to call 17%
   of the data, which occurs in a clear pattern, "atypical" to the
   data.  Tied to the top 3: <http://tinyurl.com/7hymgfg>.  Makes
   it very clear just how clueless cc is.

4) You have clearly placed a great deal of focus on the
   correlation coefficient even though it is unwise to do so at
   the expense of a focus on the visual graphs / visible trends.

5) You were wrong to deny that the sigma lines can be correctly
   drawn based on the distance from the mean to the inflection
   points. 

6) You were wrong to deny that the poorly done depictions I showed
   you were, in fact, poorly done.  They were unambiguously wrong.

7) You were wrong to say I missed steps in the creation of a
   linear trend line in Excel.  I did no such thing (and you
   never were able to list any steps I missed in creating a
   linear trend line, nor explain why the MS site and others
   would also miss these "steps" you spoke about)

8) You were wrong to say I was pushing the correlations I noted
   as being proof of the causation I had spoken of earlier.  I
   did no such thing.

9) You repeatedly snip and ignore comments which are contrary to
   your claimed views.

> So you want to say you were right in your prediction, but only for 6 months,
> and only in California (which again, is a dubious claim)?

You made that up.  See: when faced with facts you lie.

> Well, that's a hilarious interpretation of being right considering it was an
> open-ended prediction for all desktop Linux usage everywhere, but if that's
> what you're so desperately trying to cling to, then I guess I can give it to
> you.

LOL!  You just make things up as you go.  You lie.

And it amuses me.  

-- 
Summary of cc's statistical BS: <http://tinyurl.com/7rwazxw>
Details on cc's "outliers" BS: <http://tinyurl.com/84r3ypq>
More on cc's ignorance about outliers: <http://tinyurl.com/7vyhttc>
Details on cc's sigma and R^2 BS: <http://tinyurl.com/7vambev>

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Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-28 09:59 -0700
  Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-28 11:35 -0700
    Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-28 13:53 -0700
      Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-28 14:21 -0700
        Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-28 14:38 -0700
          Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-28 14:45 -0700
            Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-28 15:16 -0700
              Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Onion Knight <onionknightgot@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-29 05:10 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 10:36 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 10:45 -0700
                Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 12:49 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Big Steel <YouCanRun111277@ButYouCannotHide111277.com> - 2012-06-29 15:59 -0400
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 13:11 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Big Steel <YouCanRun111277@ButYouCannotHide111277.com> - 2012-06-29 16:18 -0400
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 13:28 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-29 16:40 -0400
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-29 17:48 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 17:46 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 22:22 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 11:06 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-30 08:36 -0400
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:12 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Tattoo Vampire <fake@fakeemail.com> - 2012-06-30 09:55 -0400
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 10:51 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:33 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 13:04 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 11:38 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 13:54 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 12:56 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 15:34 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 13:56 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 16:34 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 14:39 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 17:05 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 18:49 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-07-05 12:42 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-07-05 11:10 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-07-31 11:36 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-07-31 11:31 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-06-30 16:15 -0600
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 18:40 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-06-30 22:19 -0600
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 23:16 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-29 17:36 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-30 08:26 -0400
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:14 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 10:55 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:46 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 13:44 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 11:58 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-30 14:12 -0500
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 22:00 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 11:01 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-30 13:51 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 14:48 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-30 21:11 -0700
                Re: Long term desktop Linux trend is going up Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 23:09 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 21:59 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:59 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 21:57 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics High Plains Thumper <hpt@invalid.invalid> - 2012-06-29 23:02 -0600
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-30 08:49 -0400
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:07 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-30 10:55 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-07-31 10:03 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-07-31 09:48 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 21:41 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics High Plains Thumper <hpt@invalid.invalid> - 2012-06-29 22:59 -0600
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-07-02 04:31 -0700
                Re: That "Anomaly" in Linux Statistics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-07-02 08:20 -0700

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