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Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line

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On 6/18/12 9:15 PM, in article
708534c3-a8f3-462b-924c-c6a41f68696b@n16g2000vbn.googlegroups.com, "Onion
Knight" <onionknightgot@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 18, 10:45 pm, Steve Carroll <fretwiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 18, 3:11 pm,Snit<use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What I did not do, of course, was show that this increase was based on the
>>> *causative* factors I spoke of
>> 
>> Bullsh*t... the facts show that you even called it an "overall
>> claim" (which clearly places it in the realm of causation) that UI
>> improvements **will** (this one word highlights your lie here) bring
>> new users:
>> 
>> "Now I have theories and reasons for this - and, frankly - it would
>> not really be contrary to my overall claims that focus on the UI, if
>> successful, will bring new users." -Snit
>> 
>> That's clearly a 'cause and effect' statement if there ever was one.
>> That you have the nerve to say you're speaking outside the realm of
>> causation is absurd.
>> 
>>> - I was very clear the data merely correlated
>>> with the prediction I made based on those factors.  You got confused between
>>> causation and correlation... as did cc.
>> 
>> You're confused and you're lying... and no one is falling for it.
> 
> You have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. Even your own
> quotes show Snit making a prediction based on causes he thinks will
> lead to a change. Then he showed that the change correlated with the
> prediction. In 2011. He admitted it did not in 2012.
> 
> You are too fucking stupid to understand causation and correlation.

As noted elsewhere: Steve confuses the concepts of showing a correlation,
which I did (my vague prediction correlated well with the data of the latter
half of 2011) and proof of causation (something I never said the data
proved).

It really is not a hard concept... Carroll simply screwed up based on his
own ignorance and is now lying.  Oh well. That is what Carroll does.


-- 
The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P>
cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP>
7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu>
cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.

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Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-18 06:19 -0700
  Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 09:25 -0700
    Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 09:43 -0700
    Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-18 09:52 -0700
      Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 10:55 -0700
  OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument  -  Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 09:32 -0700
    Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 12:26 -0700
      Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-18 12:42 -0700
        cc runs. Again. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 13:11 -0700
          Re: cc runs. Again. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-18 13:23 -0700
            Re: cc runs. Again. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 13:42 -0700
            Re: cc runs. Again. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 13:56 -0700
              Re: cc runs. Again. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-18 14:09 -0700
                Re: cc runs. Again. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 14:31 -0700
                Re: cc runs. Again. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 16:04 -0700
      Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument -  Re:Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Frederick Williams <freddywilliams@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-18 20:42 +0100
      Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 13:18 -0700
      Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 13:30 -0700
        Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 13:48 -0700
          Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 14:11 -0700
            Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 15:45 -0700
              Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Onion Knight <onionknightgot@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 21:15 -0700
                Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 23:02 -0700
                Re: OT: Summarization of Snit's 'Statistical Analysis' argument - Re: Visualizing where to draw the standard deviation line Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2012-06-19 09:12 -0700

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