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On 6/16/12 4:20 AM, in article jrhq57$l0r$5@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
<ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Steve Carroll belched this bit o' wisdom:
> 
>> Speaking of UI... can you show a correlation between UI improvements
>> and a rise in Linux market share yet, you know, the one you claimed
>> fit with your "prediction"?
>> 
>> "The correlation fits with my prediction." - Snit
> 
> Too bad Snit doesn't seem to realize that correlation is not causation.

Actually I am the one who keeps making that point with Carroll showing he
does not get it.

I made a prediction of the Linux user base growing.  I noted that the data
*correlated* with my prediction in 2011 (esp. the latter half)... and it
did, there was a clear growth trend:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/LinuxTrend2011-2ndhalf.png>

I never said that this trend would continue... though I expected the growth
to continue at *some* rate or to flatten. I did *not* predict that it would
have a significant drop.  But it did:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/LinuxTrendLine2012.jpg>

So the data *correlates* well with my predictions for the latter half of
2011, but for the first half of 2012 it does not.

Nowhere did I say that the increase in 2011 was proved to be based on what
my predictions were based on.  Carroll and cc, however, keep getting this
confused and running back to the idea that I said I proved *causation*,
which I never did.  Never even suggested or hinted.

In other words: the two of them are either ignorant or lying.

Not only did they lie about that: they lied about my saying the trend line I
produced was a sign I believed the increase would continue as it was into
"infinity", as Carroll said.  Yes, lines do go off into infinity, but that
does not mean the data must.

Repeatedly I was proved right with my claims in the absurd debate I had with
them (other than the trend in 2012... which neither of them even have really
commented on - but when I am wrong I admit to it).

See the links in my .sig to see how many places Carroll and cc were just
flat our wrong and / or dishonest.  They proudly display their ignorance and
dishonesty.

> In other words, is the rise in "market share" due to improvements in the
> code, or simply due to more and more people discovering how useful is
> Linux?
> 
> In any case, Snit's snivellings, right or wrong, are annoying.

If you think I am wrong then *quote* where I am wrong.  Do not just accept
Carroll's and cc's dishonest claims about what I have said - they are
ignorant *and* dishonest anything they say is should be taken with a very,
very tiny grain of salt unless you can see it verified.  They will jump in
and whine about this... but it is true: their claim that I confused
causation with correlation, which you parroted out of ignorance (or maybe
malice) is a great example.

-- 
The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P>
cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP>
7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu>
cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.

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                Re: LibreOffice 3.6.0: A Look at What's Coming Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-16 18:44 +0200
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