Re: Imagine this

From	Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject	Re: Imagine this
Organization	Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date	2026-04-30 00:24 +0000
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On Apr 29, 2026 at 5:02:37 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
<10su66t$91hq$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 2026-04-29 16:36, pothead wrote:
>> On 2026-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2026-04-29 7:10 p.m., Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2026-04-29 14:25, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 08:08:06 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/28/26 9:15 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 20:41:36 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure the NEO is not a throwaway machine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here’s a detailed hardware teardown
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvYt1GgcsUI> comparing it to the
>>>>>>> Framework Laptop 12. Gives you a better idea of some of the
>>>>>>> compromises that went into the design of the Neo. And shows you how
>>>>>>> you can put together a more versatile machine for the same budget.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What? Even with the i3 CPU it's over $900, the i5 is $1,159. It has
>>>>>> a plastic case too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can go to their site and get an actual price.
>>>> 
>>>> Indeed you can!
>>>> 
>>>> And with a model pre-configured with Windows 11, the price STARTS at
>>>> $1,079.
>>>> 
>>>> And if you use their "DIY" configurator, the lowest price IS $719...
>>>> 
>>>> ...but you'll be spending to get RAM and an SSD to make into a useable
>>>> system...
>>>> 
>>>> ...which means another $120 for 8GB of RAM...
>>>> 
>>>> ...and another $135 or so for a 512GB SSD...
>>>> 
>>>> ...wing bring the total to just a little less than $999.
>>>> 
>>>> If you opt for the convenience of adding RAM and SSD from Framework...
>>>> 
>>>> ...well then you'll be paying $1,084.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> And he pointed out the bottom cover on the Neo is not CNC-machined,
>>>>> it’s die-cast, obviously to save costs. This means it loses rigidity,
>>>>> which has to be made up elsewhere -- in the touchpad, of all places.
>>>> 
>>>> As the FOUNDER OF FRAMEWORK pointed out, you mean.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Plus, this video is done by the Framework founder. Hardly an unbiased
>>>>>> source. It's really a Framework ad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Watch it again, and note at what point you lose count of the number of
>>>>> screws that have to be undone to open up the Neo.
>>>> 
>>>> How does that address the question of bias, and why is it important?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you really think that ordinary people are disassembling their
>>>> machines every week?
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, and the Framework 12:
>>>> 
>>>> is slower in GeekBench single and multicore speed.
>>>> 
>>>> has a 12", lower resolution, less bright display
>>>> 
>>>> weighs more and is bigger
>>>> 
>>>> needs a fan
>>> 
>>> I can understand having a computer which periodically turns on the fan
>>> because you're doing a lot of things at work or really pushing the
>>> processor, but on the PC it is constant. When you go from using a Mac
>>> almost exclusively back to a PC, it really becomes an irritant.
>>> 
>> Fans become irritating mostly on laptops. And the amount of dust, hair and so
>> forth that they suck in is a major cause of failure.
>> Blow out the intake port now and then and you'll be fine.
>> Also don't blow powerful continuous blasts of air either as it
>> will spin the fans much faster than they are designed for and toast the
>> bearings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hmmmm...
> 
> I should really blow out my fans.
> 
> Oh, wait! I don't have any!

One of the things I love about my Air.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 19:59 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Anonymous <anonttymtous@localhost.com> - 2026-05-04 16:06 -0400
                Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 17:07 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 22:35 +0000
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-04 19:31 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 23:59 +0000
                Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 20:43 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 00:50 +0000
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 08:52 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 13:54 +0000
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                Re: Imagine this % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 15:21 -0700
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                Re: Imagine this % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 09:36 -0700
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                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-05 15:55 -0500
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 13:56 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 21:07 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 14:16 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 21:29 +0000
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                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 22:40 +0000
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                Re: Imagine this -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-05-05 20:46 -0500
                Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 21:56 -0400
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-06 06:31 -0500
                Re: Imagine this -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-05-06 07:13 -0500
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 18:49 -0400
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-05 18:37 -0400
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-05 17:40 -0500
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 15:43 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 02:21 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 02:13 +0000
                Re: Imagine this % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 08:20 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 15:43 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 22:46 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 16:27 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 02:20 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-05 19:58 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 04:25 +0000
                Re: Imagine this % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 08:22 -0700
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-06 08:24 -0700
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 12:30 -0400
                Re: Imagine this % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 09:34 -0700
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-06 12:35 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 16:39 +0000
                Re: Imagine this WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-05-01 08:21 -0400
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 16:42 -0500
                Re: Imagine this WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-05-01 23:05 -0400
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-02 04:58 -0500
                WolfFan IS a *LIAR*. (was - Imagine this} "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-05-02 14:47 +0100
                Re: WolfFan IS a *LIAR*. (was - Imagine this} WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-05-02 17:36 -0400
                Re: WolfFan IS a *LIAR*. (was - Imagine this} chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-03 05:55 -0500
                Re: WolfFan IS a *LIAR*. (was - Imagine this} "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-05-03 13:08 +0100
                Re: Imagine this WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-05-02 17:34 -0400
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-03 05:52 -0500
                Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 07:04 -0400
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-05-03 07:04 -0400
                Re: Imagine this WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-05-03 11:22 -0400
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-03 11:18 -0500
                Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 19:00 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-30 15:43 -0700
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-30 18:01 -0500
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-30 16:03 -0700
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 07:02 -0500
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 12:22 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 04:54 +0000
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-29 20:58 -0400
                Re: Imagine this pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-04-30 13:16 +0000
                Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-30 15:59 -0500
            Re: Imagine this Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 16:17 -0400
          Re: Imagine this -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 07:10 -0500
            Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-30 15:45 -0500
        Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-30 07:28 +0000
      Re: Imagine this Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 16:41 -0400
        Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-30 22:21 +0000
          Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-30 22:12 -0400
    Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 21:25 -0400
      Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 21:32 -0400
      Re: Imagine this chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-29 06:55 -0500
      Re: Imagine this WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-05-01 08:34 -0400
    Re: Imagine this rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-29 03:48 +0000
  Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-29 11:32 -0700
    Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-29 15:51 -0400
    Re: Imagine this Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 11:39 -0400
      Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 11:47 -0400
        Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-30 09:02 -0700
          Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 12:06 -0400
            Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-30 09:20 -0700
              Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 12:27 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-30 09:33 -0700
                Re: Imagine this "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 13:12 -0400
                Re: Imagine this Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-30 10:44 -0700
              Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-30 12:42 -0400
                Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-30 12:47 -0400
          Re: Imagine this Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 16:34 -0400
            Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-30 22:23 +0000
              Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 22:31 +0000
                Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 00:18 +0000
              Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-30 22:13 -0400
              Re: Imagine this vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-05-01 02:25 +0000
            Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-30 21:01 -0400
      Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-30 22:23 +0000
        Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 22:32 +0000
          Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 00:17 +0000
            Re: Imagine this Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 00:28 +0000
              Re: Imagine this Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 01:34 +0000
            Re: Imagine this CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-30 22:14 -0400

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