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| Started by | Enzo Dubois <EnzoDubois2@bouyguestelecom.fr> |
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| First post | 2016-10-11 04:17 +0200 |
| Last post | 2016-10-11 08:15 +0000 |
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iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Enzo Dubois <EnzoDubois2@bouyguestelecom.fr> - 2016-10-11 04:17 +0200
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-11 01:13 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-11 01:44 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-10-11 08:40 +0200
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-11 17:23 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 04:41 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-11 22:32 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:28 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-11 17:21 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-12 15:32 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-12 16:57 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-12 12:23 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-11 18:42 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-11 17:49 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-11 20:26 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-12 02:55 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-12 08:48 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-12 17:01 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-12 10:07 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-12 12:25 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-12 21:15 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-12 15:10 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:31 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-12 19:40 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 16:35 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 13:57 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 04:04 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:36 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:17 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:47 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-14 22:48 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-15 06:20 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-15 16:34 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 03:27 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-16 15:25 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-15 07:47 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-15 16:38 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:16 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 15:27 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-14 22:54 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:44 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-14 22:52 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:42 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-12 20:25 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:11 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:31 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-12 22:36 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:42 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-12 22:52 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-13 06:37 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 16:09 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 16:15 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 04:25 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-13 16:42 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:38 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:20 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 14:15 -0500
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 23:30 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-14 19:46 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:56 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 12:18 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 00:27 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:48 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 18:14 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-15 02:11 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-14 15:35 -0400
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 23:37 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:32 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:45 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:39 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:59 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:41 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:34 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-13 15:27 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-14 15:47 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 12:15 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 00:27 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:41 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:23 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 18:14 -0700
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-15 01:56 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:39 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:32 +1100
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-16 14:49 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-11 22:46 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-11 05:24 +0000
Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 08:15 +0000
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 15:27 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e6b55tFn30tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59106 |
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e6apv7Fkp06U1@mid.individual.net... > Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote >> Rod Speed wrote > >>>> It's the choice between dumb and dumber. > >>> Neither are dumb. Obscene, sure. > >> They're both dumb. > > Neither are dumb. Obscene, sure. > >> It's actually hard to say who is dumber though. > >> Trump opines he can touch women's genitalia because he's a star, > > Nope, because he knows they wont do anything about it. > >> while Hiliary doesn't reproach Madeline who decrees you must vote >> for Hiliary (or go to Hell) simply because Hiliary has female genitalia. > > That's not dumb, just stupid. > >> Dumb, and dumber they are. > > Neither are dumb. Obscene, sure. > >>>> More accurately, it's the choice between not >>>> a politician and the consummate politician. > >>> She aint that consummate, got fuck all done. > >> She is a creation of the party machine; > > Nope. > >> he is a creation of himself. > > Nope. > >> Both are horrid choices, each for >> completely different reasons. > > Yours for Hitlary makes no sense. > >>>> One has wacky ideas, the other has none. > >>> She does have a few, stupid ones. > >> Heh heh ... that she has a few stupid ideas is true, as does he. > > All his ideas are completely stupid. Have fun listing even one that isnt. > >> However, she is more of a creation of the machine, > > Nope, she picked that machine because she is actually > stupid enough to by the shit that machine is into. > >> so, we can "presume" she will follow the mantra, > > It's a lot more than just a mantra. > >> whereas he is not a creation of the machine, > > No machine would ever be that fucked. > >> so who knows what he will do. > > Even he doesn't. > >> The net is that they're both disasters waiting to happen. > > Nope, because the prez is essentially irrelevant. > >> Luckily, I have faith in the system of checks and balances, >> such that neither will be able to get anything done > > That's not what checks and balances are about. > >> (which is probably a good thing in this situation), >> if the Congress is of a different makeup. > > That remains to be seen with Hitlary. > >>>> It's not going to be easy this time around, but I put >>>> my faith in the American system, where the separation >>>> of powers helps us overcome a lot of bad presidents. > >>> Its rather more about the fact that no prez has much power at all. > >>> They are in fact mostly irrelevant. > >> I think it's not *that* simple, but we do have separation >> of powers. Checks and balances, and all that. > > In practice there is fuck all the prez can > actually do, just pardon some prats etc. > >> So what's more important to me is the split of dems versus repubs, and >> how that split either reinforces whichever president we end up with, > > In practice is isnt about reinforcement, its about > whether Congress wants something done or not. > >> or if the makeup of Congress is of the opposite party. > >> Being in California, my vote really doesn't matter either way, so, it's >> not a big issue with me as I have almost zero control of the outcome. > > That is just as true of every single voter and it isnt > almost either, it is zero control of the outcome. > >>>> IMHO, it doesn't matter whom I vote for, since I'm in California, and >>>> in >>>> my state, the electoral vote count is not only huge, but it all goes to >>>> one >>>> person, which nobody on this planet has any doubt whom that will be. > >>> Why do you use the word whom instead of who ? > >> Simple. I know how to use personal pronouns. > > There isnt just one correct form in that situation. > >> Whom do I vote for? I vote for him. >> Whom do I vote for? I vote for her. > >> Whom will it be? It will be him. >> Whom will it be? It will be her. > >> Whom == him == her >> Who == he == she > >> Who/whom uses the *same* rules as >> do all the other personal pronouns. > > It isnt that black and white. > >>>> But no matter who the next president is, they will suck. > >> Notice I use "who" there, because, as I said, who/whom >> uses the same rules as all the other personal pronouns. > >> Who is the next president? He is the next president. >> Who is the next president? She is the next president. > >> Whom == him == her >> Who == he == she > > It isnt that black and white. > >>> They will indeed, but are largely irrelevant. > >>> Even Obama managed fuck all. He did get a significant change >>> with health care funding, but it remains to be seen how long >>> that will last and ended up with a stupid abortion anyway. > >> Obama is just ok. He's black, so that's the biggest thing he ever did. > > He didn't do that, his parents did. > >> But he's just ok. >> No better and no worse than lots of other presidents. > > Style wise he is better than quite a few. > >> The only good presidents are war presidents anyway, it seems. > > Even sillier than you usually manage. > >> For example, exclude presidents who were in office >> when a war started, and then try to find a good one. LBJ. >> I'll bet it's a tough assignment. :) Only because most of them have been involved in starting wars. >>>> However, I've taken a look at past presidents, where it turns out >>>> the vast majority sucked just as badly as the next one will. History >>>> shows we will get by because we have separation of powers. > >>> Will get by because the prez is essentially irrelevant. > >> They must be. We survived a lot of really bad ones. > > Yep. That's how the system is designed. > >>>> What matters more now, than the president, is the makeup of >>>> Congress. Everything now depends on which side has the majority. > >>> Even then, fuck all Congresses make any real difference. > >> Actually, they make the laws. > > But because of the way it operates, fuck all changes. > >>> Going to be interesting to see if Trump ends up producing >>> a decent majority for the Dems regardless of who is prez. > >> This may be the case. They're both really bad, but one is in sync >> with the party machine, which probably gives that one an edge. > > It doesn't have anything to do with the party machine. > >>>> That's the only place my vote can possibly count, but, being in >>>> California, even that result of voting numbers is nearly a fait >>>> accompli. > >>> Yep, I don't bother to vote myself, complete waste of my time.; > >> Actually, I vote. > > I used to, then realised it was completely pointless. > > And voting is compulsory here. > >> But it's still a waste of time to do so, at least for President. > >> In California, we have this proposition thing where >> the government trusts the voters to make law. > > Not really. > >> Sigh. >
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| From | "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 22:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nts98s$qot$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59109 |
On 10-13-2016 23:27, Rod Speed quoted: > [umpteen dozen lines with one new line hiding in the middle of it.] I recommend learning to edit. -- Wes Groleau
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-15 15:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e6dqibFbsr5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59156 |
W. Wesley Groleau <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> wrote > Rod Speed quoted >> [umpteen dozen lines with one new line hiding in the middle of it.] > I recommend learning to edit. I recommend you go and fuck yourself. I know how to edit and choose not to do that. I do that so that those who choose not to read every message can see the context at a glance. You get to like that or lump it.
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| From | "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 22:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nts94o$qot$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59106 |
On 10-13-2016 20:16, Rod Speed wrote: > >> Trump opines he can touch women's genitalia because he's a star, > > Nope, because he knows they wont do anything about it. Well, apparently they didn't, unless he was bragging about things that didn't happen. Now that he's "outed," though, watch them come out of the woodwork, some to reveal the truth they were afraid to reveal before, and others to take advantage of the opportunity to get some money or some attention. -- Wes Groleau
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-15 15:42 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e6dqepFbsclU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59155 |
W. Wesley Groleau <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >>> Trump opines he can touch women's genitalia because he's a star, >> Nope, because he knows they wont do anything about it. > Well, apparently they didn't, unless he was bragging about things that > didn't happen. Yep, they clearly didn’t do anything about it when they allege he did that. > Now that he's "outed," though, watch them come out of the woodwork, some > to reveal the truth they were afraid to reveal before, Not afraid so much as mostly didn’t believe anything would be done about it given that it would always be without any useful witnesses. > and others to take advantage of the opportunity to get some money or some > attention. Just like when Slick did much worse.
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| From | "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 20:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntmnpb$97e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59053 |
On 10-12-2016 16:15, Algeria Horan wrote: > 4. Now we get to the punch line, which is that Google is (wait for it...) > "tracking you" with a "fireball of personal data" about you. (Ahem ... this > is true, but it's as true on an iPhone as it is on a Google phone properly > set up.) I don't know. Apple demands a login for apps that have reason for it. The Android tablet my niece gave me asked me to login for EVERY app except the calculator. Half of them would exit if you refused, and quite a few of those had no reason I could think of to want a login. Kind of cripples the device when you get out of WiFi range. > 7. Then he appends, as an afterthought "Apple largely leaves you alone", > completely ignoring the fact that Google products run on Apple (although > not, we can presume, the Google Assistant). Yeah, he exaggerated Google's evils and downplayed Apple's, but he erred only in degree. Google IS nosier than Apple. -- Wes Groleau
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| From | Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 02:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ntmqg2$mvn$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59057 |
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:25:15 -0500, W. Wesley Groleau wrote: >> 4. Now we get to the punch line, which is that Google is (wait for it...) >> "tracking you" with a "fireball of personal data" about you. (Ahem ... this >> is true, but it's as true on an iPhone as it is on a Google phone properly >> set up.) > > I don't know. Apple demands a login for apps that have reason for it. > The Android tablet my niece gave me asked me to login for EVERY app > except the calculator. Half of them would exit if you refused, and > quite a few of those had no reason I could think of to want a login. > Kind of cripples the device when you get out of WiFi range. I use a *lot* of the best freeware out there. https://s22.postimg.org/dk94kxxpd/Screenshot_2016_10_12_19_01_48.jpg In fact, I just reset my Android phone at the beginning of October to factory defaults, and I noted at that time I had over 350 apps installed on my Android cellphone, for example), as I test a lot of the best freeware. https://s22.postimg.org/40zfrha75/Screenshot_2016_10_12_19_02_57.jpg Other than Email, I can't think of a single app that I use on Android (nor on iOS) which requires a login. https://s22.postimg.org/62zx5q869/Screenshot_2016_10_12_19_03_04.png Not one (other than email). - Not my Launchers. - Not my Map programs. - Not my WiFi programs. - Not my Audio, Video, Photo programs. - Not my System apps. - Not my Communication apps. - Not my Calendar apps either, or my ToDo lists. - Not my Filesystem apps. - Not even my Network apps. - Nor my App Store apps (F-Droid does not require a login!) And my Android phone works perfectly fine without Google Play! So, I think it may simply be that your niece doesn't know apps. What apps is she using that require a login? Maybe they're just the wrong apps? >> 7. Then he appends, as an afterthought "Apple largely leaves you alone", >> completely ignoring the fact that Google products run on Apple (although >> not, we can presume, the Google Assistant). > > Yeah, he exaggerated Google's evils and downplayed Apple's, but he erred > only in degree. Google IS nosier than Apple. I don't disagree that Google is nosier than Apple. I was just reviewing the article, which concluded with the statement that Apple brings "something of generous value to the world" while Google has "zero concern for beauty, intimacy, or artistry". At least you don't need to wonder which way the author leans...
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| From | Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 02:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ntmrlo$odt$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59058 |
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 02:11:15 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote: > And my Android phone works perfectly fine without Google Play! > So, I think it may simply be that your niece doesn't know apps. > > What apps is she using that require a login? > Maybe they're just the wrong apps? I should clarify that Google Play, the software, is kind of required on Android. It can be disabled, and the phone works ok, but on an unrooted phone, the only thing you can do to Google Play is bring it back to the original version that came with the phone, or disable it each time you reboot. So, what I meant to say is that you don't need a Google Play login account. The phone actually works just fine without a Google Play login account. What "I" do, since I plan ahead, is install the apps that I care about, while, at the same time, a freeware app backup and restore program saves all the APKs (aka zipped installation files) to the flash card. Then, when I factory reset the phone on the first of each month, I simply reinstall the apps that I want from their archived APKs (which, on purpose, I save all versions of so that I can backtrack to an older version when and if warranted). I wish iOS had this feature because the grandkids would *love* if I could go back to an older version of the insanely annoying Youtube app. On Android, I can copy an app from one device to the other simply by copying the APK but I haven't figured out how to re-install the old Youtube app on the one iPad (iOS 7.1.1 thank God) to replace the horrid youtube app on the other iPad (iOS 9.something). I should probably open a separate thread on how to do that, because there must be a way, since it's basically a trivial task in and of itself.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 22:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <121020162236472289%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #59060 |
In article <ntmrlo$odt$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote: > > Then, when I factory reset the phone on the first of each month, because of that tin foil syndrome... > I simply > reinstall the apps that I want from their archived APKs (which, on purpose, > I save all versions of so that I can backtrack to an older version when and > if warranted). > > I wish iOS had this feature because the grandkids would *love* if I could > go back to an older version of the insanely annoying Youtube app. it does, which has been explained to you before, and more than once.
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| From | Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 02:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ntmsb1$p28$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59063 |
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 22:36:47 -0400, nospam wrote: >> I wish iOS had this feature because the grandkids would *love* if I could >> go back to an older version of the insanely annoying Youtube app. > > it does, which has been explained to you before, and more than once. Your response makes no sense in light of your other response, at essentially the same time, to another thread, just now: On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 02:31:19 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote: > How do you copy the older Youtube app from one iPad to the other? On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 22:36:36 -0400, nospam wrote: >> How do you copy the older Youtube app from one iPad to the other? > > you don't.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 22:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <121020162252238481%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #59065 |
In article <ntmsb1$p28$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote: > > >> I wish iOS had this feature because the grandkids would *love* if I could > >> go back to an older version of the insanely annoying Youtube app. > > > > it does, which has been explained to you before, and more than once. > > Your response makes no sense in light of your other response, at > essentially the same time, to another thread, just now: > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 02:31:19 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote: > > How do you copy the older Youtube app from one iPad to the other? > > On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 22:36:36 -0400, nospam wrote: > >> How do you copy the older Youtube app from one iPad to the other? > > > > you don't. it makes plenty of sense for those who aren't fixated on only one way of doing things, a method which would be aiding piracy. not only is it incredibly easy to do, but it has been explained to you countless times. in the unlikely you actually want a solution (versus starting yet another idiotic rant), go back and reread the zillions of threads, as the answer lies within.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 06:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnvuau1.3m7.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #59063 |
In message <121020162236472289%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <ntmrlo$odt$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Algeria Horan > <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote: >> >> Then, when I factory reset the phone on the first of each month, > because of that tin foil syndrome... >> I simply >> reinstall the apps that I want from their archived APKs (which, on purpose, >> I save all versions of so that I can backtrack to an older version when and >> if warranted). >> >> I wish iOS had this feature because the grandkids would *love* if I could >> go back to an older version of the insanely annoying Youtube app. > it does, which has been explained to you before, and more than once. To be fair, the older versions of YOuTube will not work since YouTube made changes to their site that prevent them from connecting. The 2nd Generation Apple TV and the iPhone 4, IIRC, can't connect to YouTube. -- he'd moved like music, like someone dancing to a rhythm inside his head. And his face for a moment in the moonlight was the skull of an angel...
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 16:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e69pu5Fd3rtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59072 |
On 2016-10-13, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > To be fair, the older versions of YOuTube will not work since YouTube > made changes to their site that prevent them from connecting. The 2nd > Generation Apple TV and the iPhone 4, IIRC, can't connect to YouTube. I don't think so! I still watch YouTube stuff on my ancient first generation iPad 1 running iOS 5.1.1 and YouTube version 1.1.0.4136. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 16:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e69q95Fd3rtU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59083 |
On 2016-10-13, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2016-10-13, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> >> To be fair, the older versions of YOuTube will not work since YouTube >> made changes to their site that prevent them from connecting. The 2nd >> Generation Apple TV and the iPhone 4, IIRC, can't connect to YouTube. > > I don't think so! I still watch YouTube stuff on my ancient first > generation iPad 1 running iOS 5.1.1 and YouTube version 1.1.0.4136. To wit: <https://i.imgur.com/a7fIrKX.png> <https://i.imgur.com/vvqoqiU.png> : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 04:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e68gm5F3rfvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59060 |
Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote: > > On Android, I can copy an app from one device to the other simply by > copying the APK but I haven't figured out how to re-install the old Youtube > app on the one iPad (iOS 7.1.1 thank God) to replace the horrid youtube app > on the other iPad (iOS 9.something). Amazing since it's been explained to you multiple times right in these news groups. You've clearly ignored it each time because you were too busy trolling to pay attention. Oh well! Your loss! Meanwhile, the rest of us can install old versions of iOS apps on iOS devices with ease. Karma's a bitch, eh? Eat shit, you fucking brain dead useless troll. : ) > I should probably open a separate thread on how to do that Troll on if you feel you must. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 16:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntov49$6ao$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59058 |
On 10-12-2016 21:11, Algeria Horan wrote: > What apps is she using that require a login? > Maybe they're just the wrong apps? Don't know. Tried at least a dozen and then got rid of the thing. That was long ago. In response to my comment on Usenet, someone's defense was that Apple requires logins too. But Apple requires a login to update a purchased app, not to use one that came with the tablet. -- Wes Groleau
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| From | Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ntp8ju$sif$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59098 |
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 16:42:50 -0500, W. Wesley Groleau wrote: > Don't know. Tried at least a dozen and then got rid of the thing. That > was long ago. All I'm saying is that apps which require logins are not a platform thing. Some apps on iOS require a login. Some apps on Android require a login. Most apps on iOS don't require a login. Most apps on Android don't require a login. Furthermore, I have a lot of FUNCTIONALITY on my Android and iOS device, and I can't think of an app that I use that requires a login (other than email) on either platform. In reality, since iOS is primitively restricted on the basic email app from Apple, I don't even have an email login on that iOS iPad anymore, but that's only because Apple mail is primitive (because it won't let you force a login so that the kids don't read my email about them). :) > In response to my comment on Usenet, someone's defense was that Apple > requires logins too. But Apple requires a login to update a purchased > app, not to use one that came with the tablet. I am not sure what you're talking about, since on Android, you can factory reset your phone (I do it every month) and then re-install all your apps without needing a single login (not even a Google Play login). You don't even need a second computer. You just re-install all the apps from your SD card. I have about 350 apps installed, only one of which (email) requires a login, and none of which require me to have a Google Play account.
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| From | Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 00:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ntp9du$tat$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59101 |
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 00:24:31 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote: > I have about 350 apps installed, only one of which (email) requires a > login, and none of which require me to have a Google Play account. BTW, is that feat possible on iOS? That is, all by itself, can you reinstall all the apps (without the need for a megacloud server or a second machine)? Even it that's not possible, is it possible to reinstall all your apps after wiping out your iCloud account? It's so easy to do on Android but I never tried the same thing on iOS (because the kids mainly use the iPads, not me). But would it work?
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 12:20 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e6aq6gFkqe3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #59104 |
"Algeria Horan" <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote in message news:ntp9du$tat$1@gioia.aioe.org... > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 00:24:31 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote: > >> I have about 350 apps installed, only one of which (email) requires a >> login, and none of which require me to have a Google Play account. > > BTW, is that feat possible on iOS? > > That is, all by itself, can you reinstall all the apps (without the need > for a megacloud server or a second machine)? > > Even it that's not possible, is it possible to reinstall all your apps > after wiping out your iCloud account? Yep, you don't need one at all if you don't want to have one. > It's so easy to do on Android but I never tried the same thing on iOS > (because the kids mainly use the iPads, not me). > > But would it work?
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| From | Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ntrafn$19d$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #59108 |
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:20:12 +1100, Rod Speed wrote: >> Even it that's not possible, is it possible to reinstall all your apps >> after wiping out your iCloud account? > > Yep, you don't need one at all if you don't want to have one. I don't use the iPads all that much because they're so much harder to do the simplest things with, but I do remember being forced (it seemed) to create an iCloud account when I first set them up. Of course, I factory reset Android each month, so, I know that better, in that you don't have to say "yes" to their in-your-face suggestion to create a Google Play account. I haven't factory reset the iPads in a long time. Are you saying that, if I factory reset the iPads (one is on iOS 9.something while the other is 7.1.1), I can just skip the in-your-face request to create an iCloud account?
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