Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2

From	"3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2
Date	2016-04-18 08:12 +1000
Message-ID	<dnig1nFlo4uU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(4 earlier) <dna67oFitu3U1@mid.individual.net> <dnac5vFk6b8U2@mid.individual.net> <140420161628347324%nospam@nospam.invalid> <nephk1$csf$1@news.albasani.net> <dnc684F3l5dU1@mid.individual.net>

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"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dnc684F3l5dU1@mid.individual.net...
> AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 4/14/16, 16:28, nospam wrote:
>> > In article<dnac5vFk6b8U2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> > <jollyroger@pobox.com>  wrote:
>> >
>> >>>    *Read* the OP [1] (of this thread).
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] OPosting.
>> >>
>> >> I've read it. Nothing changes: The OP purchases Apple products from a
>> >> company that simply resells products from some shady company in China. 
>> >> I
>> >> would purchase from an authorized seller instead. Now what?
>> >
>> > that doesn't actually matter. apple warranties are tied to the product,
>> > not who sells or buys them.
>>
>> It matters, because we don't know if the product under discussion was
>> ever covered by a warranty.
>
>  You still don't get the scope and the relevance of *law* in this.
>
>  A product has warranty by definition. The *manufacturer's* warranty
> has a time limit. The *legal* warranty has no time limit. A customer can
> *always* claim service/repair/<whatever>. In this process, the
> 'reasonable expectation' of what a customer can expect comes into play.
>
>  If this case would go up the complaint/legal chain, the ruling would
> most likely be that Apple did not meet 'reasonable expectation' and
> should solve the problem c.q. bear the consequences.

Particularly when what has changes is iOS. The owner of the system has
a reasonable expectation that when Apple offers an upgrade to iOS, that
the ipad they have been using fine will continue to work fine after the
upgrade if Apple allows iOS to be upgraded on that ipad and that Apple
should provide some way of getting a working ipad back again if it doesn’t.

So Apple gets to fix the problem by resetting the password now.

That's the law and Apple gets to like that or lump it.

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Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-14 12:35 +1000
  Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 07:35 +0000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-14 07:53 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 19:22 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 15:30 +0000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:28 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 15:27 +0000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 18:35 +0000
          Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 20:17 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 16:28 -0400
              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:22 +0000
              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-14 21:54 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 22:29 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:54 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:55 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 20:54 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:31 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-17 19:06 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 15:30 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-17 20:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 16:41 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-17 20:51 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 16:54 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-18 17:24 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:42 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:39 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:38 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-21 05:56 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-21 21:05 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 19:46 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 19:41 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-21 12:02 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 05:11 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-21 21:26 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:27 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 15:41 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 15:04 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:56 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-20 11:37 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:17 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:25 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 19:42 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-04-18 11:35 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:58 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:50 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:37 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:48 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:55 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 10:26 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 21:04 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:56 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:12 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 23:36 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-18 17:53 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:45 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-21 13:33 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 05:04 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-21 21:58 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:14 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 21:17 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:25 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:05 +1000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 11:12 -0400
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 18:35 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:03 +1000
  Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-14 19:49 +1000
  Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-04-14 20:35 +1000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-15 12:03 +1200
  Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 20:11 +1000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-16 21:37 +1000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 16:32 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 10:13 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:13 -0400
          Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 10:17 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:20 -0400
              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 10:26 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:29 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jeßus <j@j.invalid> - 2016-04-17 14:50 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-04-18 19:56 +0800
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jeßus <j@j.invalid> - 2016-04-20 07:19 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-19 23:08 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jeßus <j@j.invalid> - 2016-04-20 09:42 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-04-23 04:51 +0800
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-04-16 17:52 -0700
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:56 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-04-16 17:59 -0700
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 11:16 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:27 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:53 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 18:04 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-20 16:01 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 10:31 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-20 21:09 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:05 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 15:41 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:43 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:24 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-04-21 21:51 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-22 10:57 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 15:41 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-26 21:23 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-26 21:27 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-26 21:52 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 22:11 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 14:03 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 18:02 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 08:50 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-27 13:23 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:45 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:11 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:48 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 18:05 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:13 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:26 +0000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:48 +1000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 16:02 +1000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-16 11:47 +0000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 10:45 -0400
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 16:32 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 09:51 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:07 -0400
          Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 10:20 +1000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:22 -0400
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:50 +1000
          Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-04-16 17:47 -0700
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:50 -0400
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:25 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-04-17 14:47 +1000
              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 17:59 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 06:13 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 21:56 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 11:10 -0400
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 01:03 +0000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:21 +0000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:44 +1000
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 16:03 +1000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 18:51 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-19 15:07 +0000
          Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-19 15:17 +0000
            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-19 15:45 +0000
              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:48 +0000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:05 +1000

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